Spirituality
03 Sep 14
06 Sep 14
Originally posted by KellyJayRegardless of whether you have to or not, do you "like" the "eternal torture" ideology? Do you agree with it as being a good ideology?
I believe it is true, it is going to happen!
Now do I have to like it, no. Do I have to even agree with it for me to believe
it is true and going to happen, no. I do not turn on reality by those things
I like and agree with or that I dislike and disagree with.
06 Sep 14
Originally posted by KellyJaySo you follow the teachings of a God who's course of action you do not agree with or even like?
I believe it is true, it is going to happen!
Now do I have to like it, no. Do I have to even agree with it for me to believe
it is true and going to happen, no. I do not turn on reality by those things
I like and agree with or that I dislike and disagree with.
Kelly
06 Sep 14
FMF: So your "sin" is of no consequence if you believe in Jesus, is that what you mean?So even if you "sin" you escape the being tortured for eternity in burning agony thing?
Originally posted by KellyJay
No, it was paid for by someone I care about who cares for me in a very
painful way.
06 Sep 14
Originally posted by KellyJaySo your "sin" is of no consequence to you personally ~ aside for the hurt you feel about Jesus' execution ~ if you believe in Jesus, right?
If you were a Christian you'd know it isn't our works that saves us, it isn't anything we do, it is Christ. We are to follow God's Spirit, without which you do not belong to God. It is a living faith, not one that is laid out in pure standards alone.
06 Sep 14
Originally posted by FMFWhy would I like someone suffering for eternity, no I do not like the idea.
Regardless of whether you have to or not, do you "like" the "eternal torture" ideology? Do you agree with it as being a good ideology?
That does not at all mean that I get to say it isn't going to happen and it is
not real. For all I know too, once God reveals everything to everyone, than
everyone would agree it is the right thing to do, who knows, at least who
knows now?
Kelly
06 Sep 14
Originally posted by FMFNo believing in Jesus is not enough, as I pointed out to you before the
So your "sin" is of no consequence [b]to you personally ~ aside for the hurt you feel about Jesus' execution ~ if you believe in Jesus, right?[/b]
devil believes in Jesus, it will do him no good.
Kelly
07 Sep 14
Originally posted by KellyJayIf "believing in Jesus is not enough", and your "sin" are already paid for, does this mean you believe you have to do good works too?
No believing in Jesus is not enough, as I pointed out to you before the
devil believes in Jesus, it will do him no good.
Originally posted by FMFI believe I have to invite Christ into my life, so when God gives me and
If "believing in Jesus is not enough", and your "sin" are already paid for, does this mean you believe you have to do good works too?
everyone else who belongs to Him the Holy Spirit, we will do the works God
has for us. It is after all the relationship with God that Christ restored.
Kelly
07 Sep 14
Originally posted by KellyJayAre you saying that what you need to do is "invite Christ into my life" and then beyond that your "sins" are already "paid for" beforehand by Christ and that "good works" are not necessary for "salvation"?
I believe I have to invite Christ into my life, so when God gives me and
everyone else who belongs to Him the Holy Spirit, we will do the works God
has for us. It is after all the relationship with God that Christ restored.
07 Sep 14
Originally posted by FMFOkay, around and around we go again. We have covered this ground and if
Are you saying that what you need to do is "invite Christ into my life" and then beyond that your "sins" are already "paid for" beforehand by Christ and that "good works" are not necessary for "salvation"?
you were telling us the truth about your past you should know. I think I'm
a hair away from just writing off ever having another conversation with you.
Kelly