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    04 Sep '14 03:04
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I think God had something to do with it, John was just the guy He used.
    Since you rejected Jesus, what else would you write?
    Kelly
    If I thought for one moment that God had "used" John, then I suppose I'd still be a Christian. But your assertion that it's anything other than a mundane attempt to lay out a them-or-us groupist outlook and self-image is totally far-fetched.
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    04 Sep '14 03:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    If I thought for one moment that God had "used" John, then I suppose I'd still be a Christian. But your assertion that it's anything other than a mundane attempt to lay out a them-or-us groupist outlook and self-image is totally far-fetched.
    Yea, I guess when you can tell what parts of scripture are good and what
    parts are not, that does place you above the Word of God and all it says.
    Kelly
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    04 Sep '14 03:17
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Yea, I guess when you can tell what parts of scripture are good and what
    parts are not, that does place you above the Word of God and all it says.
    Kelly
    If a god were to exist why should that
    preclude us having opinions on his/her "Word"?
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    04 Sep '14 03:211 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Yea, I guess when you can tell what parts of scripture are good and what
    parts are not, that does place you above the Word of God and all it says.
    Kelly
    It is you who happens to have the personal opinion that it's the "Word of God", not me. I have no reason to believe the same thing as you. You give me no reason to want to emulate you or your faith. And I certainly have no reason to want it to have the same effect on my spiritual side as it clearly has on yours.
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    04 Sep '14 03:341 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    It is you who happens to have the personal opinion that it's the "Word of God", not me. I have no reason to believe the same thing as you. You give me no reason to want to emulate you or your faith. And I certainly have no reason to want it to have the same effect on my spiritual side as it clearly has on yours.
    I believe that His truth is binding on all of us, the whole of His creation.
    You can reject Him, you can stand against Jesus, that is up to you, you
    have the power to make that choice. Just as you do to come to him.
    Kelly

    edit:
    When God calls you, you can come that is.
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    04 Sep '14 03:42
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I believe that His truth is binding on all of us, the whole of His creation.
    You can reject Him, you can stand against Jesus, that is up to you, you
    have the power to make that choice. Just as you do to come to him.
    Kelly
    Do you see yourself as a good ambassador for your faith?
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    04 Sep '14 04:14
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you see yourself as a good ambassador for your faith?
    I see myself as a sinner in need of Jesus Christ.
    Kelly
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    04 Sep '14 04:17
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I see myself as a sinner in need of Jesus Christ.
    That does not answer my question. Do you think you attract or repel people from your your faith and religion with the way you conduct yourself?
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    04 Sep '14 04:19
    Originally posted by FMF
    That does not answer my question. Do you think you attract or repel people from your your faith and religion with the way you conduct yourself?
    It is the only answer you are going to get from me, like it or not.
    God calls we either accept or reject Him, He can use me or not, it is
    up to Him.
    Kelly
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    04 Sep '14 04:22
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    It is the only answer you are going to get from me, like it or not.
    God calls we either accept or reject Him, He can use me or not, it is
    up to Him.
    Kelly
    Do you believe you personally present a spiritual and intellectual 'package' that others here might want to emulate? Do you think you demonstrate the 'goodness' and the 'fulfilment' that you think your religious beliefs offer you?
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    04 Sep '14 04:271 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you believe you personally present a spiritual and intellectual 'package' that others here might want to emulate? Do you think you demonstrate the 'goodness' and the 'fulfilment' that you think your religious beliefs offer you?
    I have lead people to the Lord, I do not credit myself with that as
    anything that is good about me, it is God. I know how bad I am, and
    I strive not to be, I know what I once was and I'm grateful God has
    changed me. Do I think I'm a prime example of what a Christian is,
    no.

    Christians are sinners, we come to God for forgiveness. Trust me as bad
    as you think I am, I'm more than likely worse. I'd have no hope if it were
    not for Jesus Christ. The package of goodness anyone who is searching
    for in life does not reside in KellyJay, but Jesus Christ. He is the reason
    we should turn our lives over to God not because of how good I am.

    I will let you down, Jesus will never leave you or forsake you.
    Kelly
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    04 Sep '14 04:31
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I have lead people to the Lord, I do not credit myself with that as
    anything that is good about me, it is God. I know how bad I am, and
    I strive not to be, I know what I once was and I'm grateful God has
    changed me. Do I think I'm a prime example of what a Christian is,
    no.

    Christians are sinners, we come to God for forgiveness. Trust me as bad
    as y ...[text shortened]... ause of how good I am.

    I will let you down, Jesus will never leave you or forsake you.
    Kelly
    Do you think your 'ministry' is worthy or is it counter-productive, or does it not matter to you whether the way you exemplify your own beliefs attracts people or repulses them?
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    04 Sep '14 05:48
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you think your 'ministry' is worthy or is it counter-productive, or does it not matter to you whether the way you exemplify your own beliefs attracts people or repulses them?
    No one is called to live by KellyJay's beliefs! The only one that matters
    here is Jesus Christ, what is it to you what I believe or not? You are not
    going to answer to God because you didn't follow me or agree with me,
    you will answer to God in what you do with Jesus Christ.
    Kelly
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    04 Sep '14 05:56
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    No one is called to live by KellyJay's beliefs! The only one that matters
    here is Jesus Christ, what is it to you what I believe or not? You are not
    going to answer to God because you didn't follow me or agree with me,
    you will answer to God in what you do with Jesus Christ.
    Kelly
    I have received no communication from Jesus or God. It is you here who is telling me my life is "filled with evil". It is you here who has compared me to "Satan". It is you here who is telling me that I am personally responsible for people being tortured in burning agony for eternity. No God figure is posting here. It is you who is claiming to speak for God. It is you personally who is making the accusations and threats. You cannot distance yourself from them.
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    04 Sep '14 06:20
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    2 John 1:
    7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ doe ...[text shortened]... e them into your house or welcome them. 11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
    Do you refuse to let anyone who is not a Christian into your house?
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