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    This is a call to all those Christian's here who believe that non-Christians will be tortured for eternity in a burning hell-lake. It's one thing to accept that there is a 2nd death, after all most people have already accepted their 1st death, so the 2nd one, while obviously being a bit of a "damn, those Christians were right after all" moment, is sort of also a "meh, died once, dying again sucks, but it's a fair cop".

    However, if one believes that those people will be kept alive, sustained in a state of eternal burning, with their flesh being restored over and over while the flames boil their body fat and scorch nerve endings...then you really should be thinking differently about the gospel and start spreading some hell-fire and brimstone fear ASAP.

    What are you doing posting here? You should be out screaming at people!

    GO...
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    22 Oct '14 18:22
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is a call to all those Christian's here who believe that non-Christians will be tortured for eternity in a burning hell-lake. It's one thing to accept that there is a 2nd death, after all most people have already accepted their 1st death, so the 2nd one, while obviously being a bit of a "damn, those Christians were right after all" moment, is ...[text shortened]... fear ASAP.

    What are you doing posting here? You should be out screaming at people!

    GO...
    How did Christ Himself behave during His three year ministry on earth? He spoke to large groups [multitudes] of people who came willingly to hillsides to listen attentively to His words. Christ also often spoke with men and women who sought Him out privately. In all of these recorded scenarios the distinctive characteristic was that He spoke with authority.

    As believers in Christ in the Church Age we are His ambassadors with the responsibility to witness to all who are interested [earnest seekers, agnostic skeptics and those with honest doubt] by presenting accurate information based on the Authority of the Word of God. There are plenty of well intentioned but confused people "out screaming" in the religious and political realms. The convincing ministry of God the Holy Spirit doesn't depend on decibels or coercion for its effectiveness.

    If this is a Monopoly Game in jest, my apology for misreading your interest in Lake of Fire. Should I pass "GO..." again, please earmark the $200 Salary collected for any non-subscribers who may wish to upgrade their status. Thank you.
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    22 Oct '14 18:25
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is a call to all those Christian's here who believe that non-Christians will be tortured for eternity in a burning hell-lake. It's one thing to accept that there is a 2nd death, after all most people have already accepted their 1st death, so the 2nd one, while obviously being a bit of a "damn, those Christians were right after all" moment, is ...[text shortened]... fear ASAP.

    What are you doing posting here? You should be out screaming at people!

    GO...
    Your diatribe completely misrepresents the truth of God's Word on the subject.
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    22 Oct '14 18:49
    Surely an eternity burning in hell is preferable to 1 month of listening to Christians harp on about their crap?
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    22 Oct '14 19:03
    Originally posted by josephw
    Your diatribe completely misrepresents the truth of God's Word on the subject.
    And only special people like you know the "Truth"?

    Why is that?

    Why have you been chosen?
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    22 Oct '14 19:03
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Surely an eternity burning in hell is preferable to 1 month of listening to Christians harp on about their crap?
    "If my life sucked any more than it did already you'd be able to call destiny a prostitute." @shavixmir So why listen?
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    22 Oct '14 21:10
    Originally posted by josephw
    Your diatribe completely misrepresents the truth of God's Word on the subject.
    I'm a Christian; feel free to explain "the truth"...
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    22 Oct '14 21:111 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    How did Christ Himself behave during His three year ministry on earth? He spoke to large groups [multitudes] of people who came willingly to hillsides to listen attentively to His words. Christ also often spoke with men and women who sought Him out privately. In all of these recorded scenarios the distinctive characteristic was that He spoke with author ...[text shortened]... e $200 Salary collected for any non-subscribers who may wish to upgrade their status. Thank you.
    Are you "shouting in the street" grampy bobby?
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    22 Oct '14 21:20
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This is a call to all those Christian's here who believe that non-Christians will be tortured for eternity in a burning hell-lake. It's one thing to accept that there is a 2nd death, after all most people have already accepted their 1st death, so the 2nd one, while obviously being a bit of a "damn, those Christians were right after all" moment, is ...[text shortened]... fear ASAP.

    What are you doing posting here? You should be out screaming at people!

    GO...
    Have you never heard of the "Hellfire and Brimstone" Preachers?
    I don't hear much of them anymore either, maybe they are becoming extinct.
    Or maybe the message is more subtle now?
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    22 Oct '14 21:26
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Have you never heard of the "Hellfire and Brimstone" Preachers?
    I don't hear much of them anymore either, maybe they are becoming extinct.
    Or maybe the message is more subtle now?
    The message didn't resonate then and it doesn't resonate now. It's a doctrine of death.
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    22 Oct '14 21:591 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm a Christian; feel free to explain "the truth"...
    God's design after life is past, is to destroy the uncorrected.
    Corrective dealings have not done them any good.
    And nothing has so hardened them against repentance as the rejection of Christ.

    Corrective punishment is put away and Destructive punishment will be their lot. Their influence on others will not be tolerated to continue. Administering kindness and patience has only hardened the sinner. The offer that they be viewed by the Legislator of the universe that as if never having sinned at all was jeered at and spurned. Their poison will not be allowed to spread to others in the world to come.

    Warning has failed. God will show that He loves righteousness and hates iniquity. If there are laws and threats attached warning of the breaking of those laws, those consquences cannot be a paper posturing. They must be executed. He must be a Righteous Governor.

    He will not prove to be a careless faker.
    He will prove to mean what He has patiently warned of with mercy and tolerance. Now the uncorrected sinner has been hardened by God's longsuffering. The character of God as Creator and King will fall upon him since His character as Savior has been rejected.

    The saved will glorify God with their endless happiness. But the lost will glorify Him with their endless woe. They will be hung out in chains of punishment as an example to deter other worlds. That punishment is designed to deter others from like guilt is evidenced so often in the Bible.

    In the one and only theocratic society, the stubborn son who would not be corrected wast to be stoned. The harsh penalty was "So shall you put away the evil from you, and all Israel shall hear and fear." (Deut. 21:21; 27:13; 19:20).

    God bears long with iniquity. He will not bear with it forever. In the end a display of the terrors of His just wrath fails, after hope is over, after mercy is past.

    Destruction then is not the loss of being. It is the loss of well-being.
    The welfare of the offender is then hopeless. The welfare of the saved is consulted by their destruction.
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    22 Oct '14 22:08
    Originally posted by sonship
    God's design after life is past, is to destroy the uncorrected.
    Corrective dealings have not done them any good.
    And nothing has so hardened them against repentance as the rejection of Christ.

    Corrective punishment is put away and Destructive punishment will be their lot. Their influence on others will not be tolerated to continue. Administering k ...[text shortened]... re of the offender is then hopeless. The welfare of the saved is consulted by their destruction.
    Are you "shouting in the street" sonship?
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    22 Oct '14 22:11
    Originally posted by sonship
    God's design after life is past, is to destroy the uncorrected.
    Corrective dealings have not done them any good.
    And nothing has so hardened them against repentance as the rejection of Christ.

    Corrective punishment is put away and Destructive punishment will be their lot. Their influence on others will not be tolerated to continue. Administering k ...[text shortened]... re of the offender is then hopeless. The welfare of the saved is consulted by their destruction.
    "The saved will glorify God with their endless happiness. But the lost will glorify Him with their endless woe. They will be hung out in chains of punishment as an example to deter other worlds."

    I take back what I said earlier; you are a total of the rails fruitcake.
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    22 Oct '14 22:121 edit
    "Deter other worlds..."

    Did you really say that!?
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    22 Oct '14 22:19
    Originally posted by sonship
    God's design after life is past, is to destroy the uncorrected.
    Corrective dealings have not done them any good.
    And nothing has so hardened them against repentance as the rejection of Christ.

    Corrective punishment is put away and Destructive punishment will be their lot. Their influence on others will not be tolerated to continue. Administering k ...[text shortened]... re of the offender is then hopeless. The welfare of the saved is consulted by their destruction.
    Your argument seems to boil down to "They have to be punished to stop others from being tempted." But since this is at the end of all things it's not clear who the others are. The believers are not going to be tempted into atheism after the final judgement. Further, even if it is only final for us, but not for your other worlds then, just like it is for us, they will have no particular evidence of Hell's existence. So it's all rather pointless.
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