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He should be rewarding them for doing his bidding.
Another contradiction from the nonsense that is religion coming to you soon.
Another contradiction from the nonsense that is religion coming to you soon.
Originally posted by damage79Isn't all this devil and torture and hell stuff a bit childish?
The devil will torture those who go to Hell, because he hates God, and humans are created in God's image. So in an attempt to hurt God, he hurts His creation
Originally posted by amannionI was answering the OP
Isn't all this devil and torture and hell stuff a bit childish?
I mean, c'mon.
There is no santa claus!
Originally posted by damage79But these are the humans who God hates too - he is punishing them for being evil or not believing in Jesus, or whatever.
The devil will torture those who go to Hell, because he hates God, and humans are created in God's image. So in an attempt to hurt God, he hurts His creation
Originally posted by damage79So surely if there is no proof either way then the logical thing to do is follow the path with the least number of assumptions (Occam's Razor). And that would be not believing in God.
I was answering the OP
The whole prove God exists / doesn't exist thing is a dead end.... there is not definitive proof either way, so actually going on a tangent at this point will not accomplish much more than muddle the content of the thread
Originally posted by howardgeeGod does not hate the humans who will dwell in Hell, but He is righteous and just, and those who will not accept Jesus (and the fact that He bore the weight of their sin), they must bear the consequences of their own sin.... in Hell. God does not hate them, but He cannot allow unredeemed people to dwell with Him. So, we those in Hell are not enemies of God, He mourns that everyone does not choose Jesus, but choices have consequences....
But these are the humans who God hates too - he is punishing them for being evil or not believing in Jesus, or whatever.
Therefore the enemy of God must the the friend of the enemy of God.
Originally posted by XanthosNZLogic isn't proof
So surely if there is no proof either way then the logical thing to do is follow the path with the least number of assumptions (Occam's Razor). And that would be not believing in God.
Why aren't you logical?
Originally posted by scottishinnzGod is Holy, Righteous, Just
Why?
Originally posted by damage79You're wrong about atheists not considering the evidence of experiences, at least you're wrong about me anyway.
Logic isn't proof
I do apply logical thought to the evidence I have and enquire further where required,
I also give consideration to the experiences I have had (although you would not consider this evidence, hence the divide between aethiest and theist)
So, taking into consideration all my experiences and observed evidence, I choose to believe as I do. ...[text shortened]... BSc, honors and PhD in geology.... and this happily gels with my belief in the God of the bible
Originally posted by amannionThanks for the reply
You're wrong about atheists not considering the evidence of experiences, at least you're wrong about me anyway.
I do consider personal experiences to be valid evidence.
Where an atheist will differ over a religious person however, is in the interpretation of personal experiences.
I read a lot in these posts about people and the wonderous experiences th ...[text shortened]... pernatural causes - a creator god for example.
I prefer natural causes and explanations.