Why Evangelicals Hate Jesus

Originally posted by stellspalfie
has satan also blinded the mind of people who follow an alternative christian faith?

If they add to more then just being saved but the grace of God through Jesus Christ, then yes and they are not really Christians if they add works to get to heaven or being good to get to heaven.

Originally posted by galveston75
And which of his laws do you keep? Should I numerate them and see what your answers are, or will you just post you JW bashing as usual to avoid having to answer?

The word says that if you break one, then you break them all. Before he was a christian he kept none.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
has satan also blinded the mind of people who follow an alternative christian faith?

He has if they are not following the Bible. You can't pick and choose or do only what feels good or is easy or fall for the trick that many believe in that all you need is "faith" and to believe in Jesus and your in, done deal. No worries cause you'll never die even though you still sin. "Once saved always saved" is not in the Bible but yet most believe that.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The question is not whether government is replacing god, nor whether these values are espoused by all or some evangelicals, not whether those in civil government are god-fearing or not, but why evangelicals are so vociferous in support of policy which is at odds with the principles as espoused by Christ and in the Bible.

No one is questioning whe ...[text shortened]... learly this is another instance where they are at odds with the Biblical precedent set by Moses.

What you are asking is in a sense is a catch 22....you ask "why evangelicals are so vociferous in support of policy which is at odds with the principles as espoused by Christ and in the Bible." But the alternative is to set them free to commit their crimes again. So what choice do they have?
You must agree that rehab is not very effective, so if incarceration is out, what else is there in this present system run by worldly people? What is the deterrent to crime?

Originally posted by RBHILL
The word says that if you break one, then you break them all. Before he was a christian he kept none.

But still he question to him is which ones does he keep and which does he ignor? For example Jesus said to "turn the other cheek".
But with the comments he has given about guns and his willingness to use them should someone invade his space, we see that turning the other cheek just may not be his responce?

Originally posted by galveston75
He has if they are not following the Bible. You can't pick and choose or do only what feels good or is easy or fall for the trick that many believe in that all you need is "faith" and to believe in Jesus and your in, done deal. No worries cause you'll never die even though you still sin. "Once saved always saved" is not in the Bible but yet most believe that.

Really?

1 John 3:7-9
Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
NKJV

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Really?

1 John 3:7-9
Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
NKJV

Who is this speaking of and applies to, man in general? Remeber the two flocks Jesus spoke of and who they are and what their future would be?

Originally posted by RBHILL
It they add to more then just being saved but the grace of God through Jesus Christ, then yes and they are not really Christians if they add works to get to heaven or being good to get to heaven.

catholics, mormons, protestants, quakers, j.w's, judaism.

just to help me understand you. is there any of the above that you consider to be blinded by satan?

Originally posted by galveston75
He has if they are not following the Bible. You can't pick and choose or do only what feels good or is easy or fall for the trick that many believe in that all you need is "faith" and to believe in Jesus and your in, done deal. No worries cause you'll never die even though you still sin. "Once saved always saved" is not in the Bible but yet most believe that.

does it mater which bible you are following? how would you answer the question in the post above?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
catholics, mormons, protestants, quakers, j.w's, judaism.

just to help me understand you. is there any of the above that you consider to be blinded by satan?

any one in those groups that do not accept Christ as the only way to be saved then no.

I personnally know 3 Catholics that have appected Christ.

Originally posted by RBHILL
any one in those groups that do not accept Christ as the only way to be saved then no.

I personnally know 3 Catholics that have appected Christ.

so it is irrelevant if one church think jesus said x and another say y? all that really matters is that they accept christ as their savior, is this right?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
What you are asking is in a sense is a catch 22....you ask "why evangelicals are so vociferous in support of policy which is at odds with the principles as espoused by Christ and in the Bible." But the alternative is to set them free to commit their crimes again. So what choice do they have?
You must agree that rehab is not very effective, so if incarce ...[text shortened]... t else is there in this present system run by worldly people? What is the deterrent to crime?

ok, lets take another example, the invasion of Iraq, which was supported by many rampant evangelicals,

The Iraq war has had detrimental affects on the country’s small population of Christians. It is estimated that Christians make up nearly half of all refugees leaving Iraq, although they make up less than three percent of the country’s population. There are only about 600,000 Iraqi Christians left in the country, down from 1.2 million before the 2003 U.S.-led offensive.

Persistent instability and violence in Iraq has also led to increased attacks on Christians. Last month, 10 churches were bombed within two weeks. Christians are also the target of kidnappings, mostly for ransom money.

Overall, the majority of evangelical leaders support the war, but almost as many expressed serious reservations, according to the NAE survey.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/most-evangelical-leaders-still-support-iraq-war-31154/

Can you explain on what scriptural basis they can claim justification for their stance in support for the the invasion of another sovereign nation.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, lets take another example, the invasion of Iraq, which was supported by many rampant evangelicals,

The Iraq war has had detrimental affects on the country’s small population of Christians. It is estimated that Christians make up nearly half of all refugees leaving Iraq, although they make up less than three percent of the country’s population ...[text shortened]... laim justification for their stance in support for the the invasion of another sovereign nation.

although i agree with the gist of your post. isnt the issue bigger than if christians in iraq are being persecuted or not. wouldnt jesus be against any innocent person being hurt and killed by bombs. the whole thing seems like the very antithisis of being a christian.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
does it mater which bible you are following? how would you answer the question in the post above?

The truth of God and his word can be found in any bible. But one needs to research and realize that some wordings have been altered in a few to influance and support certian beliefs that are not taught in the bible as a whole.
As far as the question about other religions, it is my honest answer that most religions are not following the Bible in a truthful way either on purpose or unknowingly
I honestly feel I am fortunent to be with the one that from all I can tell is doing the will of God to the best of our ability and have removed any non bibilcal beliefs from our worshp to God.
We are not perfect and have never claimed to be and have made mistakes like any person or group would in learning about God and what he wants us to do.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
so it is irrelevant if one church think jesus said x and another say y? all that really matters is that they accept christ as their savior, is this right?

that is right.