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@sonship said
Since Cain murdered Abel - religion as a general matter of fallen mankind has been influenced by the enemy of God.
But your cult is not "influenced by the enemy of God"? Only Catholic's religion, Protestant's religion, and the religion of the Jews?

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@sonship said
I mean your crocodile tears here are not that touching.
"Crocodile tears"?

In fact, what "tears" of any kind are you talking about?

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@sonship said
So in a real since ONE organization is meant.
Is Catholicism a "Satanic" organization? Is Protestantism a "Satanic" organization? Is Judaism a "Satanic" organization?

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@divegeester

The point is that you claim to be in the only Church organisation which is not under Satanic control. The JWs claim this.

You do see the comparison, don't you?

The local churches COULD become what you say. No need to rush to judgment that it has occurred.

And there is a difference. There is a difference in saying -

1.) "We are the ONLY church" and

2.) "We are ONLY the church"

#1 is exclusive, debarring others.

#2 is saying there are no extras - we merely are what the Lord meant us to be - churches according to localites.

I know it is hard to grasp this difference for some. But there is a difference.

And again - the church in Corinth was a local church. It was NOT a utopia. It had problems. It had some problems. Right?

It was NOT not a local church because its condition was with problems.

This too needs to be grasped. Better Christians may indeed be meeting as divisions as denominations. It is not condition the is the guiding factor but standing.

The local church must receive all in the locality (if they wish) to meet as fellow Christians, in principle. We are only what we are - a church.

Now go get just a little more education and read -
"The Speciality, Generaliity and Practicality of the Church" by Witness Lee.

Here is the table of contents to this insightful book.

CONTENTS
The Speciality of the Church Life (1)
The Speciality of the Church Life (2)
The Generality of the Church Life (1)
The Generality of the Church Life (2)
The Practicality of the Church Life (1)
The Practicality of the Church Life (2)
The Practicality of the Church Life (3)



Or read through, I said read through at least "The Normal Christian Church Life" or Assembling Together by Watchman Nee.

Or read 'Practical Expression of the Church" or The Genuine Ground of Oneness by Witness Lee.

Here's the table of contents to that great book.
CONTENTS
Oneness in the Four Great Acts of God
Life and Light—the Essence of Oneness
Babel, Babylon, and the Great Babylon— Issues of Division
The Unique Place of God’s Choice for Keeping the Oneness
Enjoying Christ with God on the Ground of Oneness
The Blessing of Life under the Anointing Oil and the Watering Dew on the Ground of Oneness (1)
The Blessing of Life under the Anointing Oil and the Watering Dew on the Ground of Oneness (2)
The Damage and Loss of the Ground of Oneness
The Recovery and Testimony of the Ground of Oneness
The Ultimate Revelation of the Local Oneness and Its Recovery


https://www.ministrybooks.org/books.cfm?id=2EC4

You can find them all at this website.

And if you want to read something not by someone co-working with Witness Lee you may find some. I don't feel at this time I am obligated to point you to them. But I know of one.

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@FMF

"Crocodile tears"?

In fact, what "tears" of any kind are you talking about?


Yep. Like you are "concerned" for the poor treatment of my fellow Christians.

Actually, I rather think you secretly love it. Why, all the more rational for you to be an agnostic / atheist. Its all not true.

Crocodile tears.
Maybe piranha fish tears would work too.

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@FMF

But your cult is not "influenced by the enemy of God"? Only Catholic's religion, Protestant's religion, and the religion of the Jews?


The problem of religion is in man's flesh.
That is in everyone's flesh.

The mind set on the flesh is enmity against God says Romans.

Jesus scolded his leading disciple Peter, calling him Satan.

English Standard Version
But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.” (Matthew 16:23)



The leading disciple and apostle of the twelve was influenced at the moment by God's enemy - Satan.

But as a loud and proud Agnostic / Atheist you would know NOTHING about spiritual warfare.

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@sonship said
@FMF
"Crocodile tears"?

In fact, what "tears" of any kind are you talking about?


Yep. Like you are "concerned" for the poor treatment of my fellow Christians.
Nothing you say causes any "tears", sonship. But what you say in public here is interesting. I know full well that accusing someone - or their church organization, for example - of being "Satanic" is the most raw and visceral condemnation and insult that a Christian can muster.

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@FMF

visceral condemnation and insult that a Christian can muster.


Croc tears.

About spiritual warfare you know nothing.

Whoever discovered the ocean water, it probably wasn't a fish.
You need to be taken out of the water you're swimming in to realize that you're flooded all around with water.

Your swimming in a No God existence. So of course that there could be spiritual conflict and deception centered around men coming to live by God is oblivious to you.

Warnings of such, you have made a career of ignoring.
Some of us have not. And we can now see the Matrix we were born in.

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@sonship said
About spiritual warfare you know nothing.
I know that you are now hiding your "most visceral condemnation and insult that a Christian can muster" behind the terminology "spiritual warfare" as if that lends it some sort of virtue in and of itself.

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@sonship said
Maybe piranha fish tears would work too.
" Piranha fish"?

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FMF,

If you do not believe in the spiritual realm of man, then doesn't it follow that you would not realize spiritual conflict?

The existence of spiritual conflict you don't see.
And the extent of it you don't see.
And the exposure of it to the root you would mistake for meanness against the victims of it.

Honest diagnosis is not meanness. It is faithfulness. The Bible is faithful to expose the extent of the problem AND not only the extent - but the sure effective vindicating SALVATION from it.

All your dislike for talk of the whole of Christiandom being leavened is void of the realization that it is a purely TEMPORARY problem.

Jesus said He WOULD build His church. And the gates of Hades would not prevail against it. He didn't say the gates of Hades would not do its damndest to try.

We who believe the Gospel know that only Christ will prevail totally and all the world will come someday in unconditional surrender to the truth.

You too.

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@sonship said
About spiritual warfare you know nothing.
Is "solid Christians" ignoring your stuff about the "Satanic" nature of their religion a case of them partaking in "spiritual warfare" too?

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@sonship said
If you do not believe in the spiritual realm of man, then doesn't it follow that you would not realize spiritual conflict?
So the silence of other Christians here in the face of your "spiritual warfare" is caused by them being "wise" and "noble"?

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@FMF

Does one final stupid question signal your great superior philosophy of Atheism over the truth of the Gospel of Christ ?

What answers does you "lack of belief" Agnosticism have for the coming tribulation over the world?

NOTHING!

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