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I wonder if anyone has a view with regard to the effect our population level is having on the plant and animal kingdoms?

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Originally posted by OdBod
I wonder if anyone has a view with regard to the effect our population level is having on the plant and animal kingdoms?
We are having a very significant impact on other species. But that is not just a function of population it has a lot more to do with how we manage things. We could double our population and have less impact if we chose to do so.


Originally posted by twhitehead
You can at least clarify your words. What is it you were really trying to say. I asked for clarification. It seems you do not wish to be forth coming. My guess is that I was right that you deliberately obfuscated them because you knew you were talking nonsense.
You twisted my words.

I suggested we view health care by population growth.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
We are having a very significant impact on other species. But that is not just a function of population it has a lot more to do with how we manage things. We could double our population and halationve less impact if we chose to do so.
I agree,but is our management of the environment being driven by our population levels?

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Originally posted by FMF
On another thread a few hours ago you said "Murder is unlawful by definition". When you refer to the "murder [of] unborn babies" ~ and use the world "murder" in this way ~ are you referring to countries where abortion is "unlawful"?
I should probably have used the word 'abort' instead. Well spotted.

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
"At some point we will start worrying about how to keep the human race going"

I think we are at that point now
Ah, a neo-Malthusian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe


Originally posted by Eladar
I suggested we view health care by population growth.
In what way? Clarify.
So you are saying high population growth = poor health care? Or the other way around?
And whichever way you choose, why?

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Originally posted by OdBod
I agree,but is our management of the environment being driven by our population levels?
In some places yes. But mostly, no. Or rather population is a factor but not the only one.


Originally posted by twhitehead
In what way? Clarify.
So you are saying high population growth = poor health care? Or the other way around?
And whichever way you choose, why?
No, I am saying population growth indicates a healthy population. It is showing positive growth which is a good sign for a population.

The weaker ones die, the strong live. The population continues to grow even without health care which in essence allows those who need medical help to continue to consume.

Let the population grow naturally.

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Originally posted by Eladar
No, I am saying population growth indicates a healthy population.
Well then you are wrong - because it doesn't.

It is showing positive growth which is a good sign for a population.
This whole thread was based on the premise that a growing population was a bad sign.

The weaker ones die, the strong live. The population continues to grow even without health care which in essence allows those who need medical help to continue to consume.

Let the population grow naturally.

It is still far from clear what you are trying to express. I won't even guess what you are trying to say or you will accuse me of twisting your words. But it is clear that you are confused.

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Originally posted by apathist
Think of earth as a star-ship. We need to manage our resources and our population. We need a long view.
I am still hoping for some clarification on this. What resources do you think are finite as in a star ship? As far as I know, virtually all resources we use are available in quantities far larger than we will ever use. Many resources are actually recyclable. The issue normally is not so much availability but the cost of extracting them.


Originally posted by twhitehead
Well then you are wrong - because it doesn't.

[b]It is showing positive growth which is a good sign for a population.

This whole thread was based on the premise that a growing population was a bad sign.

The weaker ones die, the strong live. The population continues to grow even without health care which in essence allows those who need medi ...[text shortened]... ying to say or you will accuse me of twisting your words. But it is clear that you are confused.
The best way is to allow nature to deal with it.

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Originally posted by Eladar
The best way is to allow nature to deal with it.
So you don't go to the doctor I take it.


Originally posted by twhitehead
So you don't go to the doctor I take it.
I have no problem with population growth. I was just giving an answer to the evil topic of the thread.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I have no problem with population growth. I was just giving an answer to the evil topic of the thread.
Is that a yes you don't go to the doctor, or a dodge?

And what is evil about the topic of the thread?