1. R
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    24 Jul '18 12:04
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    ....if it bit you on the arse?

    I am beginning to think not.

    Most of the posters left here have no fvcking clue what Spirituality implies.

    That is why my interest in this forum had declined.

    There is no wisdom left here.

    There is no insight as to the human condition.

    I come in here, and see a bunch of Christians bickering over silly doctrine they has zero effect on human beings and their search for meaning in LifE.
    Some people are turned off because they want to be turned off.

    Spirituality involves your human spirit.
    You have something called a human spirit.

    it is not your mind, or your emotion, or your will. it is another neglected component of your total humanity.
    Spirituality involves the awakening, healing, coming to life of the function of a very deep part of your total make up - your human spirit.

    Spirituality also involves the eternal Spirit of the uncreated and eternal Person of God.

    The two matters must come together - your human spirit and the Spirit which is the eternal and uncreated Divine Person.

    Spirituality also deals with the hindrances to that connection - your spirit with the Holy Spirit.

    Spirituality deals with what has occurred, if anything, to deal with the comatose state of your human spirit. And it deals with WHY there is a separation between your human spirit and the Divine Person of the Eternal Holy Spirit Who is God.

    Spirituality has to do with problems of human life which HAVE solutions not with problems to which there are NO solutions.
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    24 Jul '18 12:33
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Without Jesus man is spiritually dead. What man identifies as spiritual without Jesus is merely a religious enactment of ritual designed to illicit an emotional response mimicking a spiritual experience.

    One must be born again as a result of an encounter with the one and only true and living God. Jesus is the only way.

    As for "Native Americans" and "millions of white men", I nearly laughed at you assertions.
    Just as a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without a spiritual life.

    Buddha
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    24 Jul '18 12:49
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Without Jesus man is spiritually dead. What man identifies as spiritual without Jesus is merely a religious enactment of ritual designed to illicit an emotional response mimicking a spiritual experience.

    One must be born again as a result of an encounter with the one and only true and living God. Jesus is the only way.

    As for "Native Americans" and "millions of white men", I nearly laughed at you assertions.
    Before the birth of Jesus Christ, was man spiritually dead?
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    24 Jul '18 14:13
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Before the birth of Jesus Christ, was man spiritually dead?
    Man is spiritually dead to God until he is born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    There is no other way.
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    24 Jul '18 14:19
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Man is spiritually dead to God until he is born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    There is no other way.
    Whats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
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    24 Jul '18 14:25
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Whats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
    Good question but not addressed to me so I’ll keep out until invited.
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    24 Jul '18 14:28
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Just as a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without a spiritual life.

    Buddha
    "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

    Jesus Christ
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    24 Jul '18 14:29
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Whats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
    Start with substitutionary atonement.
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    24 Jul '18 14:36
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Man is spiritually dead to God until he is born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    There is no other way.
    I got it ... so Abraham Issac and Jacob were spiritually dead according to you
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    24 Jul '18 14:37
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Start with substitutionary atonement.
    Thats church language. If you use what Is that in the bible you might sound more credible. You have a reference?
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    24 Jul '18 14:38
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Thats church language.
    Indeed.
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    24 Jul '18 14:57
    Originally posted by @secondson
    "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

    Jesus Christ
    Recognize the Lord's Light (Spirit) within all, and do not consider social class or status; there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter.

    Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 349. (Sikhism)
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    24 Jul '18 15:00
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    I got it ... so Abraham Issac and Jacob were spiritually dead according to you
    You really are a spiritual moron aren't you?
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    24 Jul '18 15:02
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Indeed.
    Biblically illiterate by any chance are you?
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    24 Jul '18 15:06
    Originally posted by @secondson
    You really are a spiritual moron aren't you?
    Yep .. getting abusive because you cannot answer the question means you have a personality disorder brought on by your false doctrines.

    I suggest that because of your church doctrine, you are astray on a number of key bible concepts:
    - What is born again about?
    - What is the difference between born of water and born of the spirit
    - When does the above take place
    - What is the purpose of Christ's death and resurrection
    - Who gets eternal life in the Kingdom of God

    Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Your entire church doctrine is nonsense.
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