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    05 Mar '18 15:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How many good acts makes one good?

    In fact, what does it mean to be good?

    Was Christ right? There is none good but God?
    Why are you asking these questions? Did you not take the time to read and comprehend the OP?
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    05 Mar '18 16:071 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How many good acts makes one good?

    In fact, what does it mean to be good?

    Was Christ right? There is none good but God?
    Jesus answered that

    The sheep are good and righteous The goats are not.

    Pick your side.
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    05 Mar '18 16:23
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Jesus answered that

    The sheep are good and righteous The goats are not.

    Pick your side.
    And yet greater value seems to be put on the goats:


    'The lambs will be for your clothing, And the goats will bring the price of a field.'
    (Proverbs 27:26)
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    05 Mar '18 16:35
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    And yet greater value seems to be put on the goats:


    'The lambs will be for your clothing, And the goats will bring the price of a field.'
    (Proverbs 27:26)
    The sign of a goat is that he asks questions such as these:

    How many good acts makes one good?
    In fact, what does it mean to be good?
    Was Christ right? There is none good but God?
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    05 Mar '18 16:50
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The sign of a goat is that he asks questions such as these:

    How many good acts makes one good?
    In fact, what does it mean to be good?
    Was Christ right? There is none good but God?
    Just wondering what is meant here.

    Have you stopped sinning since your "conversion"?
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    05 Mar '18 16:541 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Just wondering what is meant here.

    Have you stopped sinning since your "conversion"?
    Another question goats would ask.
    Similar to this one:
    Lord, when saw we thee an hungred,
    or athirst, or a stranger, or naked,
    or sick, or in prison,
    and did not minister unto thee?


    You have decided to be a goat.

    Sheep do not ask people about their personal lives.
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    05 Mar '18 17:13
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Another question goats would ask.
    Similar to this one:
    Lord, when saw we thee an hungred,
    or athirst, or a stranger, or naked,
    or sick, or in prison,
    and did not minister unto thee?


    You have decided to be a goat.

    Sheep do not ask people about their personal lives.
    I see, so as long as you see someone in need and help you are OK I reckon.

    So if you sin along the way in other things you are OK so long as you help those in need?
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    05 Mar '18 17:50
    Originally posted by @whodey
    I see, so as long as you see someone in need and help you are OK I reckon.

    So if you sin along the way in other things you are OK so long as you help those in need?
    Jesus is the judge of who is 'OK' and who is not.
    Jesus is the judge of peoples sins.
    You are not the judge
    Neither am I.

    The indisputable fact is that Jesus said that it is the righteous
    and those who do good works will inherit the Kingdom of God.
    Goats will be cast out because they refused to do good works
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    05 Mar '18 18:572 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Jesus is the judge of who is 'OK' and who is not.
    Jesus is the judge of peoples sins.
    You are not the judge
    Neither am I.

    The indisputable fact is that Jesus said that it is the righteous
    and those who do good works will inherit the Kingdom of God.
    Goats will be cast out because they refused to do good works
    But you called me a goat.

    I thought you were the judge.

    How many good works did the thief on the cross next to Jesus do to earn eternal life?

    Notice Jesus said he would inherit eternal life.
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    05 Mar '18 19:151 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Jesus is the judge of who is 'OK' and who is not.
    Jesus is the judge of peoples sins.
    You are not the judge
    Neither am I.

    The indisputable fact is that Jesus said that it is the righteous
    and those who do good works will inherit the Kingdom of God.
    Goats will be cast out because they refused to do good works
    Tell me, does this scripture in Matthew 9:5 offend you?

    But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said, “Why do you harbor evil in your hearts? 5Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk?’ 6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your mat, and go home.”…

    If you had been one of the religious leaders of that day, would you have accused Jesus of blasphemy since only God can forgive sins?
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    05 Mar '18 19:34
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Tell me, does this scripture in Matthew 9:5 offend you?

    But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said, “Why do you harbor evil in your hearts? 5Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk?’ 6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, ...[text shortened]... leaders of that day, would you have accused Jesus of blasphemy since only God can forgive sins?
    Does this offend you?

    'The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.'

    John 5:19
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    05 Mar '18 19:59
    Originally posted by @whodey
    But you called me a goat.

    I thought you were the judge.

    How many good works did the thief on the cross next to Jesus do to earn eternal life?

    Notice Jesus said he would inherit eternal life.
    Goats deny that good works are essential.

    Jesus knew the heart of the thief on the cross. .. simple. Had the man lived he would have lived righteously and do good works.

    Nobody not even born again Christian Saints enter the kingdom of God unless they live righteously.
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    05 Mar '18 20:06
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Regarding the requirements for "eternal life" / "living in the Kingdom", Jesus emphasizes several at various times and in various ways spanning the gospel He preached during His ministry:
    1) Hear His word
    2) Understand His word
    3) Believe His word
    4) Follow His word
    5) Keep His word
    6) Abide in His word

    Many seem to believe that Jesus intended t ...[text shortened]... to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
    [/b]
    If Jesus was only a man, as you believe, why do you think he knows the requirements for salvation? How are those requirements different than what existed in the Old Testament?

    Did God expect Jews in Old Testament times to follow the Mosaic law (and not just the Ten Commandments but all of the Mosaic law?) If God expected them to follow the Mosaic law, why did He allow them to sacrifice animals to atone for their sins when they failed to follow the law? Why did God institute a sacrificial system in the Old Testament?

    Do you see a progression from the regular sacrificing of animals to atone for sins in the Old Testament to Jesus Christ’s one-time sacrifice to atone for the sins of mankind in the New Testament?
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    05 Mar '18 20:08
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Tell me, does this scripture in Matthew 9:5 offend you?

    But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said, “Why do you harbor evil in your hearts? 5Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk?’ 6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, ...[text shortened]... leaders of that day, would you have accused Jesus of blasphemy since only God can forgive sins?
    If i lived at the time of Christ i would have been a disciple of Christ.

    You would have been the crooked thief on the cross demanding that Christ save himself and you.
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    05 Mar '18 20:12
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Does this offend you?

    'The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.'

    John 5:19
    This already has been addressed, tiger. Did you forget?

    “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.“

    (Hebrews 2:9)

    Jesus, as fully God and fully man, did not possess the same status as God the Father, nor the status He (Jesus) had before He came to earth.
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