Originally posted by chaney3 The dilemma is, humans were created.
A novice can view a documentary regarding human life and see the wonder of the human body.
How a rational person tries to dismiss this is mind boggling.
We were created.
Once again, humans were created.
Originally posted by chaney3 Can you prove that God exists?
Can you prove Jesus existed?
Can you prove that Jesus is God?
Can you prove that God may be wrong, and Allah is right?
Dive. You can't.
Are you going to remain biased based on your background and past?
I certainly not going to indulge the little trip-trollist forum wet-dreams of a guy who can't even decide if he's a Christian or not 😉
Originally posted by JakeChess I think that as humans, we can't comprehend what goes on outside of our little bubble of information. We know what is here, sometimes we even know why, but we do not know exactly what the catalyst is. So by the logic that humans can't comprehend the idea of something so immense, what is there to say that anyone has it right? Alternatively, you could go the mo ...[text shortened]... is true to you, than it is true. Therefore, all religions and lack thereof are equally true/untrue.
Fair enough!
Drop the 'creator' requirement and I see gods all over the place. You, for example. If the cells of your body were sentient, they could search forever and never find your consciousness - they would never find your mind, it would be (to them) exactly as if your feelings and thoughts do not exist after all.
Originally posted by chaney3 Can you prove that God exists?
Can you prove Jesus existed?
Can you prove that Jesus is God?
Can you prove that God may be wrong, and Allah is right?
Dive. You can't.
Are you going to remain biased based on your background and past?
Well, playing devil's advocate, you can't actually prove you exist! (perhaps the words I'm quoting just come from some sophisticated yet random server-side post generator that never got commented out)
Originally posted by apathist Fair enough!
Drop the 'creator' requirement and I see gods all over the place. You, for example. If the cells of your body were sentient, they could search forever and never find your consciousness - they would never find your mind, it would be (to them) exactly as if your feelings and thoughts do not exist after all.
Exactly! I believe that many, if not all organized religions, are reactionary and striving to know what we can't truly know. One can look up at the stars and ask "Who do you think put them there?" and the person beside him could say "What says they had to be put there?" or some other such thing. Then you start getting into the argument of solipsism vs materialism, whether you are real, or anything/everything is real. But that would be opening an entire can of worms I would rather leave closed for the moment. Of course, you have individualistic religions that hinge somewhat on satisfaction of the individual before everything else like LaVeyan Satanism and such.
Sorry, I got very off track with that. My point is that as human constructs, Religion or lack thereof is subjective, as nothing can be proven or disproven when dealing with things of this nature. Everything is equally wrong and right, a la the concepts put forth by Schrodinger's Cat. We can't open the box, so the cat is perpetually dead and alive. Such is the nature of religion as we know it.
08 Jan '17 09:24
Your God is wrong!
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