Originally posted by FetchmyjunkInvolving, say, the safety of others, or the security of property, or the prudence of investments, or one's health, yes, people can make wrong choices. But with angels dancing on the head of a pin stuff like what you propagate? It may have been a wrong decision for me to have devoted as much time as I have indulging you, so, yes, in that regard, wrong choices can be made.
Ok tell me this: Can someone make a wrong choice? Or are all choices right?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkGive me some scenarios illustrating what you mean. As for the Christian notion - of a God figure wishing to be sincerely loved by his creations otherwise He will torture them - I think it's nonsense and depraved.
Do you think it is possible to love someone without a free will?
Originally posted by FMFIt isn't believable. I can't choose to believe it.
It isn't believable. I can't choose to believe it. If you honestly think that the "fair" punishment for me not believing in the "credibility" of same things as you is for me to be tortured for eternity and that my lack of belief is equally as evil as murdering millions of people, then I think your entire philosophy is intellectually and spiritually shambolic ~ e ...[text shortened]... that one might be required to "choose" to believe it for fear of being tortured is preposterous.
So how does belief about something come about if it is not by choice?