Your tooth fairy not mine

@kellyjay said
We know what the effect does but we don’t know what it is.

Please don't speak for others with that.

@pettytalk said
I'm with you, there too. And that's where the intellectual comes in into the picture. The picture of an allegory, the story of Adam and Eve. I have heard that the Bible is not a sole source for the story, and which has to be kept in mind also when discussing religions in general. And we also pretty much know that truth is singular.

And of lately we are also noting some ...[text shortened]... rying to gently embrace science, and bring it in into their own religiously depicted picture of God.

I have a lot of respect for theists (from any religion) who try to address and take on board scientific evidence, not immediately treat it as the enemy.

@kellyjay said
We know what the effect does but we don’t know what it is.

I know what it is. It's one of God's absolute laws of physics governing the physical world he created for all his children to have fun and games.

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The man is not denying the existence and the effects of gravity, as you are wanting to stress. He's clearly showing it, by admitting that the causes only can be observed. And gravity itself is not seen when exerting its force to cause the causes we can observe. Apparently gravity has no effect on you, since you cannot be moved to see that you are only harassing, and also trying to label Kelly as a flat-earth advocate, just because he's a Christian.

But perhaps, unbeknown to me, Kelly has declared a belief in a flat earth to you?

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Do you know how it's created, and who created it?

Can you describe what gravity looks like while exerting its force in causing effects? Is it like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat? What powers gravity, and is it possible to turn off this power? Or better still, what gravity looked like before the supposed Big Bang? The effects must be Godlike, omnipotent, to be able keep in the singularity all that we can observe in our physical universe....thousands upon thousands of billions of galaxies as far as the eye can see. It must also have another of God's traits, omnipresent, to have an effect everywhere throughout the entire physical universe....so says science, so far.

@pettytalk said
Do you know how it's created, and who created it?

Can you describe what gravity looks like while exerting its force in causing effects? Is it like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat? What powers gravity, and is it possible to turn off this power? Or better still, what gravity looked like before the supposed Big Bang? The effects must be Godlike, omnipotent, to be a ...[text shortened]... nt, to have an effect everywhere throughout the entire physical universe....so says science, so far.

I think there is something God like about gravity, which is after all the creator/assembler of everything in the universe.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The problem with religion is when it fails to embrace scientific certainties and clings on to religious impossibilities, such as the first man and women being created in a garden several thousand years ago, as opposed to evolving over millions of years on an impressively old planet.

You don’t have a certainties since absolutely everything is subject to change.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please don't speak for others with that.

Tell me what it is, explaining what it does is not the same thing. Let’s hear it.

@pettytalk said
I know what it is. It's one of God's absolute laws of physics governing the physical world he created for all his children to have fun and games.

A speed limit set by humans is a law, can you be a little more precise.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think there is something God like about gravity, which is after all the creator/assembler of everything in the universe.

The law must have a lawmaker. The law of gravity can be shown mathematically, therefore there must be a mathematician....same argument. Gravity, like God, is ever the same, but its effects are ever causing changes. It's the changeless which is responsible for the changes...more of the same argument. The unmoved causes the motion, if gravity, like God, is an absolute mover....more of more same argument. If there are absolute laws of physics there must be absolute Law and Order in an absolutely real world. After all are not laws intended to bring order?

We have no order in this physical world, just laws. The laws made by the strong to control the weak, the law of nature which causes destruction and death, just as easily as it causes life and construction. The law here is that from the ashes we can build another day, another civilization, another empire, another nation, another state, another city, another house, and another man to dictate how other man should serve the strong. This matter is ever changing and has no where to go, except to change, because outside there is nowhere to go, since we are housed in an infinite singularity which some call God. I call it a maximum and absolute prison where there can be no escape. How does one reach the walls of infinity to climb over and escape?

To me all things are possible....if you can think it, it can be possible, but it takes time to make it possible. Just so with God, in time, our time, we can't see him so well, but when it will be time, we will be able to see our gravity, and then its effects, when the command is given. It's all a matter for tale, or rather the tail. The number of times Minos' tail raps around the soul.....the more times the more the gravity.

With the tale, I'm applying the everyday use of the word, gravity, not for you, but for the benefit of our friends here who are too concerned with others' delusions and paranoia, when they should be concerned with their own first.

This is all the raving I have time for today. These forums can be addictive and take up a lot of our time. I have plenty of weeds to pick in my backyard, as I don't use chemicals because my dog thinks she's a sheep and grazes on the grass.

@kellyjay said
Tell me what it is, explaining what it does is not the same thing. Let’s hear it.

Energy.