@divegeester saidI never trusted experts. Once a friend of mine got an expert opinion from his doctor, and is still alive today, 20 years after the expert told him he had only a year to live.
No it isn’t.
Your “opinion” isn’t the same as the opinion of scientific experts.
And I trust even less your amateur opinion of experts' opinions.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhy do the cosmologists typically address the universe as the "observable" universe, if it's all there is of the universe? There must be more than meets the eye, as they say.
It explains the universe itself. How is that not an account of the totality of what we see?
In contrast you present a creator God who created trillions of galaxies (I'm assuming you believe that) and only put life on one planet.
@pettytalk saidNot entirely sure how it works old chap but the universe seems to have it covered.
I had a friend in Tennessee who used to make some good moonshine using a still, and the evaporation system. The collected condensation produced what the Native Indians once called, firewater. And science, in excess, like moonshine, will make your head spin.
With all the crunching and crushing, where is all the evaporation from all the boiling going? Our universe must n ...[text shortened]... cycle proof, if the cycles get mixed up. It's more of a tricycle, or a bicycle with training wheels.
@kellyjay saidIt really does Kelly. Abandon the idea of a young Earth and you'll take a step in the right direction.
No, the universe itself includes both the material and immaterial pieces of the whole, not just an object of "the universe" but every one of the bits and pieces that make up the whole, your explanation does not deal with life, morals, none of the systems we see within the universe that deals with hierarchy of information-driven systems within life, none of the properties tha ...[text shortened]... details in this universe and instead deals with some hypothetical ones not part of this discussion.
@pettytalk saidDifficult to discuss something that isn't observable. (Although I guess you chaps do that with the divine).
Why do the cosmologists typically address the universe as the "observable" universe, if it's all there is of the universe? There must be more than meets the eye, as they say.
@pettytalk saidThis has become very apparent from your recent posting.
I never trusted experts.
@divegeester saidPettyTalk?
You need to be at the big bang personally witnessing it in order to accept that is true?
@divegeester saidYes, just like any good professing atheist wants to be there, to personally witness the miracles performed by God.
You need to be at the big bang personally witnessing it in order to accept that is true?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI do it for both sides, as I'm partial to sight. Are not the invisible laws of physics divine? We accept them by their effect they have on us, don't you? Are you not grounded by an invisible force?
Difficult to discuss something that isn't observable. (Although I guess you chaps do that with the divine).
@pettytalk saidPerhaps, but it isn't divine.
I do it for both sides, as I'm partial to sight. Are not the invisible laws of physics divine? We accept them by their effect they have on us, don't you? Are you not grounded by an invisible force?
When I referenced previously the 'god of gravity' it wasn't said in a literal sense. (Only in that it shaped the planet we inhabit, making life and evolution possible).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWill not the earth be young again in the next repetition? Besides, I'm certain that KellyJay, like any faithful person of his persuasion, will not seriously care how old this earth is, as he's patiently waiting on a new earth to be created.
It really does Kelly. Abandon the idea of a young Earth and you'll take a step in the right direction.
@pettytalk saidThe Earth won't exist again. An eternal universe isn't a time loop. It isn't a exact repetition.
Will not the earth be young again in the next repetition? Besides, I'm certain that KellyJay, like any faithful person of his persuasion, will not seriously care how old this earth is, as he's patiently waiting on a new earth to be created.
Good lord have you been binge watching groundhog day?
@pettytalk saidYour mindset is typical of what’s fuelling the contemporary wave of paranoia and conspiracy theories.
Yes, just like any good professing atheist wants to be there, to personally witness the miracles performed by God.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThe god gravity! Oh, you actually believe I took it literally? It takes more than a god of gravity to shape a planet, and make life possible on it. It takes a real God, one who can make gravity, which in turn will do all his work for him, so he can rest at least one day a week.
Perhaps, but it isn't divine.
When I referenced previously the 'god of gravity' it wasn't said in a literal sense. (Only in that it shaped the planet we inhabit, making life and evolution possible).
@pettytalk saidHow do you know this?
The god gravity! Oh, you actually believe I took it literally? It takes more than a god of gravity to shape a planet, and make life possible on it. It takes a real God, one who can make gravity, which in turn will do all his work for him, so he can rest at least one day a week.