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@moonbus

No need to keep repeating your beliefs. Christians find it as putting off as a Bible thumper would sound to you.


@moonbus said
The story of Adam and Eve in the Garden cannot be taken literally, as a historical account of what really happened to mankind. It’s an allegory about growing up. A child lives in a kind of paradise for a certain period, during which everything is provided by the parents, and whatever the parents say has, from the child’s point of view., the force of law. At some point, the ...[text shortened]... ing the parental home and protection of parental laws is experienced not as loss, but as liberation.
And you know this how exactly?


@dj2becker said
What hard evidence is there that does not involve filling the gaps that disproves Adam and Eve?
What do you mean "disproves Adam and Eve"? I did not intend to "disprove" anything. I provided a perfectly believable, plausible, rational, and sensible interpretation of it, thereby rescuing it from being dismissed as nothing but superstitious bunk (as some other posters would no doubt do).

What evidence is there? Genetics. Evolution happened; it's not 'just a theory.' H. saps did not evolve from only one woman and only one man. Furthermore, all life did not appear fully formed from nothing on one day about 6,000 years ago. The evidence for this is overwhelming. If some Christians find that insulting or an affront to their faith, my answer is: they need a reality check.

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@eladar said
@moonbus

No need to keep repeating your beliefs. Christians find it as putting off as a Bible thumper would sound to you.
Let me ask a straightforward question, on the level, no tricks, and I'm not trying to trap you into saying something stupid. Have you ever read The Book of Mormon?


@moonbus

Parts and those parts were enough. Do you know what Mormons believe?

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@eladar said
@moonbus

Parts and those parts were enough. Do you know what Mormons believe?
I read the whole thing. If that is what they believe, then I know what they believe.

Now, what I want to ask you is this: do you believe that Joseph Smith really found golden tablets under a rock in NY? That they were inscribed in an unknown language. That an angel named Moroni taught him to translate it into English. And that the words were God's. Do you think any of that is true? Or do you think Smith made it up?


@moonbus

I think that Joseph Smith could have been visited by an angel in white.

Have you read what I wrote in the mormon vs bible thread?

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@eladar said
@moonbus

I think that Joseph Smith could have been visited by an angel in white.

Have you read what I wrote in the mormon vs bible thread?
No, please link.

BTW, I believe I read somewhere that they have recently announced that they are to be referred to as Seventh Day Adventists, no longer as Mormons.


@moonbus

www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/conflict-between-mormon-and-biblical-teachings.181082


They can call themselves anything they want. 7th Day Adventists has always been a name used for Mormons.

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@moonbus

No, the Seventh-Day Adventists (SDA) are a whole different bunch than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS). Practically none of their dogma is similar at all.

About the only thing they have in common is being 'out-of-the-mainstream' of Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

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@Suzianne

That is right, thanks for the correction Suzi

7th day adventists go to church on Saturdays..

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@eladar said

They can call themselves anything they want. 7th Day Adventists has always been a name used for Mormons.
This is an utter falsehood.

The only people who conflate them are people who do not know what they are talking about.


@suzianne said
This is an utter falsehood.

The only people who conflate them are people who do not know what they are talking about.
Lol I already thanked you for correcting us. Not sure why you need to be so attacking.

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@eladar said
Lol I already thanked you for correcting us. Not sure why you need to be so attacking.
Perhaps it's because you are always so abjectly defensive.

You do realize posts can be written at nearly the same time and 'cross', yes?

And I answered both of you. Don't really see this 'attacking' you're talking about.

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