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@eladar said
How can you convince a person their falsifiable assumptions are false?
Umm, with evidence.

Assuming the person has some basic ability of critical thinking, and can entertain the notion that they might be wrong.

Lacking that, you can't.

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@bigdoggproblem said
Umm, with evidence.

Assuming the person has some basic ability of critical thinking, and can entertain the notion that they might be wrong.

Lacking that, you can't.
Tell me how to prove God does not exist.

If you are going to reject a hypothesis there must be convincing evidence the alternate hypothesis is true. There is no convincing evidence to support God's existence nor is there convincing evidence to disprove God's existence any assumption about God is not falsifiable.


@eladar said
Tell me how to prove God does not exist.

If you are going to reject a hypothesis there must be convincing evidence the alternate hypothesis is true. There is no convincing evidence to support God's existence nor is there convincing evidence to disprove God's existence any assumption about God is not falsifiable.
This may surprise you, but I agree.

I think it is Occam's Razor that cuts out your "God".

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@bigdoggproblem said
This may surprise you, but I agree.

I think it is Occam's Razor that cuts out your "God".
If you accept Occam's Razor as true then yes, if not then no. You cannot escape circular reasoning on the issue.


@eladar said
Tell me how to prove God does not exist.
We can certainly prove that a God that is both omnipotent and perfectly loving doesn't exist. The evidence (suffering of the innocent and the like) is all around us.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
We can certainly prove that a God that is both omnipotent and perfectly loving doesn't exist. The evidence (suffering of the innocent and the like) is all around us.
Really, you can prove that?
I've attempted to get you to watch this discussed in great detail you refused.
So, where is your proof?
Perfectly loving is one quality of God, omnipotent another, so is Holy, and being Just another.
You think one quality of God cancels out others, or is it possible your grasp of God is what is really amiss?


@ghost-of-a-duke said
We can certainly prove that a God that is both omnipotent and perfectly loving doesn't exist. The evidence (suffering of the innocent and the like) is all around us.
You can in your own mind. Skin heads have the same problem.

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@eladar said
You are tolerant in one way intolerant in another. Your intolerance of other people's beliefs is what I am talking about. It is what makes you a skinhead. They do not allow others to be different either.
Do you believe you are tolerant in every possible way?


@eladar said
I said he was being a rude jerk phrasing things in abusive ways and belittling his sister's beliefs.

It is a very common practice around here where some use it as a form of entertainment. Yet when applied to family members just causes grief and if not avoided simply acting as if the family member does not exist.
You are a hypocrite.
I am sure you know what Jesus guy says about hypocrites . 😲


@fmf said
It was your claim that you had "lost count of how many lives" you'd saved by giving CPR "on the sidewalk" that caused several people to query the story. At what number of saved lives does one no longer remember how many there were? Twenty? Thirty? Two?
Five? Six? Seven? As I said, I can't remember exactly how many. I wish it wasn't necessary in the first place. That you immediately started nit-picking is what set me off. You can sit back in your easy chair and criticize, but when was the last time you were out there helping these people yourself? Right.

I guess what you miss is that my work with the homeless places me in close proximity to these people frequently, and often at night. I've also had to call the police about homeless people I have found dead on occasion. This is because many of these people are in poor health and checking on those in my assigned area is what I do.

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Not sure there's a difference. What difference are you perceiving here?


@suzianne said
Five? Six? Seven? As I said, I can't remember exactly how many.
I don't believe you. I wasn't nitpicking.

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@suzianne said
...my work with the homeless places me in close proximity to these people frequently, and often at night. I've also had to call the police about homeless people I have found dead on occasion. This is because many of these people are in poor health and checking on those in my assigned area is what I do.
Sounds good.