1. Donationrwingett
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    07 Jun '07 03:03
    Here's another one to toss into the mix: Justin Verlander. After crushing Texas tonight, he improves to 6-2, with a 3.12 ERA.
  2. SubscriberSmookieP
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    07 Jun '07 06:13
    Sergio Mitre with the Marlins.

    ERA around 2
  3. Standard memberPocketKings
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    07 Jun '07 14:52
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Hah or ham. Which is it?
    "ha" as in 'ha'ppy. the end is like gulls, except mulls
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    07 Jun '07 15:05
    Originally posted by PocketKings
    "ha" as in 'ha'ppy. the end is like gulls, except mulls
    So like Camels. Or do you pronounce those Cam-ells?
  5. Donationrwingett
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    07 Jun '07 15:15
    Originally posted by darvlay
    So like Camels. Or do you pronounce those Cam-ells?
    Stop it! It's Hamels, like Camels.
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    07 Jun '07 15:15
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Stop it! It's Hamels, like Camels.
    Wing-it or Wingette?
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    Originally posted by darvlay
    Wing-it or Wingette?
    Is it Darv --- lay

    or is it Dar -- vlay??????
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    Originally posted by PocketKings
    Is it Darv --- lay

    or is it Dar -- vlay??????
    It's Darv Lay, as in Darvin Lay, my real name.
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    07 Jun '07 16:59
    Originally posted by darvlay
    It's Darv Lay, as in Darvin Lay, my real name.
    Marvin Gay?
  10. Donationrwingett
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    07 Jun '07 17:13
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Wing-it or Wingette?
    Win-gett. It has a hard 'g' sound.
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    So much for best pitchers huh
  12. Donationrwingett
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    08 Jun '07 03:43
    Originally posted by SmookieP
    So much for best pitchers huh
    Those fools have polluted my thread with their nonsense. But to get back on topic, I'll toss out one more worthy contender:

    Jeremy Bonderman

    5-0, 3.27 ERA
  13. Standard memberChaswray
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    Here's another to consider:
    Dan Haren 6-2 1.70 ERA ( best among all starters ) 21BB 70SO
    13 Games Started with 12 Quality Starts (best in baseball)

    Quality starts is a stat that I think should be considered more and more when comparing starters. Won-loss records can be influenced by things beyond a pitchers control. And ERA can be thrown way out of proportion by one bad outing. Although ERA is still a good stat to use when comparing.
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    i think Haren is very good, but I belive quality starts are overrate. Giving up 3 runs in 6 innings gives you a 4.5 era. that's just not quality to me.
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    Originally posted by myteamtrulystinks
    i think Haren is very good, but I belive quality starts are overrate. Giving up 3 runs in 6 innings gives you a 4.5 era. that's just not quality to me.
    By definition it's "three runs or less in six innings". If you look at the pitchers with the most quality starts very few, if any, have an ERA OF 4.5.


    In today's baseball, I'll take 5 starters who give up 3 runs or less in six innings every time they go out there. And I'd lay odds my team makes the playoffs😉
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