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    @secondson said
    Now to the one that seeks to judge me, you are causing offense against my brothers and sisters in Christ because when you criticize me in conjunction with my church, you are criticizing my family.
    You're in trouble now because I'm putting you at the top of my prayer list. God will deal with you, but not like me. God is so very kind and gentle and infinitely patient.
    He gonna get you boy! 😉
    In church and with your family you are what you do; in here SecondSon, in the online world, you are what you post. My posts are aimed at you and you alone; if you choose to come here and put about your blowhardiness and subsequently try to hide within or behind a list of your church’s congregational persons-in-need, then that is a reflection of your character, not my posting

    Apparently I’m not as easily impressed as the other contributors to your self-serving eulogy of your churchy deeds, or by your showy promises of prayer which are in reality, thinly veiled threats of how your version of God will “deal with me” and “get me”.

    If you want to call me as you see me then that’s absolutely fine with me and totally acceptable. I’ll do the same, but without the reinforcement of posting my Sunday résumé or calls to my God to “deal with” my forum detractors.
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    @secondson said
    [b]"They are not lies, those words are my honest perspective of you. You come across as a guy who’s been in his “church” a long time, possibly and elder, but more likely leader/overseer of the youth group. I get this impression by you turning up here and pontificating on scripture like you are talking to a bunch of green youngsters at your church who all think your pompous ...[text shortened]... but not like me. God is so very kind and gentle and infinitely patient.

    He gonna get you boy! 😉
    If you are a Christian who commands respect in your church community, as you seem to have portrayed yourself to be in this OP, then that's good. It makes the apparent effect of online disinhibition on your forum persona all the more fascinating.
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    @suzianne said
    I see you still specialize in damning with faint praise.
    He is what he posts, like divegeester said. We all are. If his claims about himself are true, then good for him. I am not saying that in a "faint" way at all. What I am saying ~ what the words you were replying to said ~ is that he gap between the two personas is interesting
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    1:18.

    Ah, good ol' "Racism" has entered the video. No time was wasted 🙂
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    4:00.

    Lots of big numbers thrown around to make immigration sound more positive.

    It sort of reminds me of those people on the other side, who throw big numbers around to make immigration sound more negative.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Yes Trump is a blowhard. Who disagrees with that. But it helps in manifesting his talents in negotiating. Can you Imagine any of the other guys pulling off what he is doing? Would you like a really bad blowhrd doctor who does perfect work fixing your heart, or would you want a Jimmy Carter-type average not-so-good dr fixing your heart. Go blowhard, I say. And Clinton ...[text shortened]... ’s assessment of Trump?
    And Carter has an opinion on Trump? That should be front page news I guess.
    Carter's correct. It's a disaster; or, as Trump would put it " A DISASTER !!! "
    And can you provide an example of anything that you might mean when you say that he is 'pulling off what he is doing'.
    He's in over his head. He's unfit. In short, a disaster
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    @ashiitaka said
    The thing is, the way James Bond treats women could be imitated by impressionable young men.

    This is a tough one because I wouldn't want all sexuality to be censored. It's a matter of attitude. It just a seems as though James Bond movies treat women as objects that can be discarded. It's really a fine line, but something about it just doesn't sit right with me.

    I do ...[text shortened]... and I'm not going to be militant about change, but in the meantime, I don't really enjoy the movies.
    It should be pointed out that rape-like behavior in fiction is a completely different beast.

    Ever heard of "bodice-rippers"? It's a genre of romance novels where rape-like behaviors are what make the books popular. The kicker? These books are made by women, for women. The idea of some impossibly attractive man so overcome with desire he must have the female lead character (who is merely someone for the female reader to project themselves onto) is a strong fantasy for countless women.

    50 Shades of Grey, a book written by a woman, for women, and was IMMENSELY popular with women, has scenes like this:

    https://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/02/lines_from_50_shades_of_grey_t.html

    Somehow he moves, I have no idea how, and in the blink of an eye I'm on the bed pinned beneath him, my arms stretched out and held above my head, his free hand clutching my face, and his mouth finds mine."

    He bends and starts undoing one of my sneakers. Oh no... no... my feet. No. I've just been running. "No," I protest, trying to kick him off. He stops. "If you struggle, I'll tie your feet too. If you make a noise, Anastasia, I will gag you."


    Shortly afterward:

    But now I feel like a receptacle - an empty vessel to be filled at his whim. [...] I have an overwhelming urge to cry, a sad and lonely melancholy grips and tightens round my heart. Dashing back to my bedroom, I close the door and lean against it trying to rationalize my feelings. I can't. Sliding to the floor, I put my head in my hands as my tears begin to flow."

    Keep in mind, this is the lead male character; the man who represents the ultimate lover, the cream-of-the-crop of male suitors for women. This man, according to a female author (and MILLIONS of women) represents the ultimate female fantasy.

    Is this character, created by a woman, any better than Bond? He's arguably much worse. So why is 50 Shades so wildly popular with women? Why were there women waiting for hours in long lines that began far outside of the store for this book?

    I don't have an answer. What I'm fairly sure of, is that the women who enjoyed the book know they wouldn't actually enjoy this in real life. Just like when I enjoy watching an action hero blow away bad guys with a machine gun, I'm 100 percent sure I wouldn't "enjoy" actually seeing real men ripped to shreds by high-powered weapons.

    Many behaviors that are abhorrent in real life just so happen to be enjoyable in a fiction. Most people understand that.

    Still, there's a major difference, between male and female authors when it comes to rape-ish behavior toward women: there's a real-life culture and world around them where such behavior either ignored, excused or even encouraged. That adds an extra dimension to rape-like scenes penned by male authors.

    I don't know. I guess I don't have any real answers. Just musings. *shrug*
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Think of me cashing in when it roars back. I assume you think I have lost all my money.
    No. I think you lost 7% of your investment.
    Perhaps less now.
    What did you buy them at?
    Their 5-day high was 142 and low 124.
    That's volatile, partly due to Trump, it is not a good thing.
    Currently 128.

    You know Caterpillar started year at 157 and climbed to 170?
    And all the Trump supporters were saying "isnt that great!" MAGA! Trump is wonderful.

    Crashes to 124 .
    And all the Trump supporters were saying "isnt that great!" MAGA! Trump is wonderful.

    Totally brainwashed.
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    @shavixmir said
    You don’t think you’ve been lied to by the brexit campaign?
    Do you think you were lied to by the Remain campaign?
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    @whodey said
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/dnc-chairman-tom-perez-is-very-upset-that-americans-listen-to-what-they-hear-in-church

    Apparently there are those in the DNC livid about what is being said about abortion in churches all around the US. I think they would either like to censor the speech or create a voice that is equal or greater to the ones in church.

    So what say you Suzy? How can your political party overcome the church?
    He should be more upset that some Americans believe what they read at www.theblaze.com
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    @whodey said
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/dnc-chairman-tom-perez-is-very-upset-that-americans-listen-to-what-they-hear-in-church

    Apparently there are those in the DNC livid about what is being said about abortion in churches all around the US. I think they would either like to censor the speech or create a voice that is equal or greater to the ones in church.

    So what say you Suzy? How can your political party overcome the church?
    Dear Bible believer,
    What is the Biblical penalty for injuring a woman and causing her unborn child to die ?? I think it is in Leviticus . According to your god it is NOT murder, but according to hypocritical Christians it is. Clearly, the majority of those who claim to be Christians do not believe their own gods' words.
    Whose words do you believe ?
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    Lawyers are still pouring through documents from the SDNY and the Mueller Team as we speak, but it's clear that Trump's statements that he "Had nothing to do with Russia" and "There was no collusion" are going down the drain pretty fast.

    Trump supporters: You can yell "fake news" all you want, but the Donald hasn't been telling you the truth all along!



    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-russia-mueller.html
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    @suzianne said
    Religion and government should not mix.

    Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?

    The church should have zero say in government.

    Don't like it? Change the Constitution. Good luck with that.
    I think it's a good idea that the government does not establish a state religion or that a religion is designated and endorsed by the state. And the First Amendment provides for exactly that when it makes it clear that the state has no business making laws with respect to the establishment of religion.

    Is anyone trying to establish a 'state religion'? If they are, they have the First Amendment to contend with.

    But the same First Amendment forbids state action that prohibits the free exercise of religion or that abridges the freedom of speech and the press, that restricts the right to peaceably assemble, or the right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

    The churches are comparable to trade unions: they are organizations that represent the beliefs and interests of their members and amplify their voices - including their grievances and petitions and their opinions about policies based on their perspectives.

    As long as the state is not trying to establish a government-backed national religion, I think the First Amendment protects the right for religious people and religious institutions to lobby and pressure and demand government policies consistent with their worldviews and beliefs.
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    @wajoma said
    Smoking increases the chance of lung cancer. Millions of smokers who never get lung cancer or any cancer are the proof of this. Ypu've been sucked in by the state propaganda machine.
    Your first sentence makes sense but #2 and #3 are the ramblings of an idiot.
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    @divegeester said
    You’re upset you didn’t make my shortlist, but being spiteful won’t help. Besides I just forgot about you.
    You could always come out with your own top 583 list, that way I might make it. 🙄
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