Originally posted by @kazetnagorra Yeah, it's "only speculation" that the entire GOP leadership "jokes" about Trump being compromised, while Trump has done everything he could since the Russian attacks to help the Russian military get away with their attack on the U.S.
Plausible deniability as a political tool has been used as long as politics has been around.
It is intended to keep the person at the top clear of the issue.
Unfortunately, the Donald with his personality disorder, just can't seem to stay clear of the issue.
Originally posted by @no1marauder Or maybe they could have ordered an investigation to amass evidence against those foreign operatives and any Americans who colluded with them in order to file criminal charges.
Wait a minute ....................................................................... they did that and right wingers have been screeching ever since.
Originally posted by @philokalia I forget who, but someone at the Journalist just penned an article talking about how this is a large failure for the probe as it has established no connection of Trump and no evidence of collusion.
It makes the whole affair look really wasted.
Moreover, the question of whether or not he is the "next to go" simply is one of whether or not the Pres. ...[text shortened]... .
As there is an internal war happening among the GOP, that is not surprising or interesting.
The 'next to go' piece was not about Rump firing him, it is about a real effort starting up to IMPEACH Rosenstein, a totally different bit. There in fact is a bill starting up to do just that, doomed to fail from day one because the Rebubs need a 2/3 majority to bring it off and that ain't gonna happen EVER. THAT was what 'next to go' was all about.
At this point in time Trump has lost the bid to fire anyone, if he does, he will be hanging his sorry ass to dry on a stump.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorra Yeah, it's "only speculation" that the entire GOP leadership "jokes" about Trump being compromised, while Trump has done everything he could since the Russian attacks to help the Russian military get away with their attack on the U.S.
The entire GOP leadership? You know that is not true.
Originally posted by @no1marauder Debbie Wasserman Schultz was chairperson of the Democratic National Committee. "Election meddling" is her job, not a felony like it is for Russian intelligence agents.
I really didn't need Russia to tell me Wasserman Schultz favored Clinton over Sanders; anybody who paid the slightest attention to Democratic party politics knew that.
Russia was in ...[text shortened]... American People non-biased information. Anyone who believes to the contrary is beyond gullible.
Election meddling is her job? Is that why she was fired? You are being ridiculous.
Originally posted by @metal-brain Election meddling is her job? Is that why she was fired? You are being ridiculous.
She was fired shortly before the Democratic Convention as a means of placating the Bernie wing of the party and solidifying their acceptance of Hillary as the candidate. Bernie and others had complained about her favoritism towards Clinton long before then, but there were embarrassing revelations in the Russian hacked e-mails.
BTW, hacking people's e-mails is a crime, a Democratic politician supporting Candidate A rather than Candidate B is not.
Originally posted by @metal-brain The entire GOP leadership? You know that is not true.
You got me - perhaps not the entire GOP leadership, but only a few minor figures who are barely GOP members like the House Speaker and House Majority Leader.
Originally posted by @no1marauder She was fired shortly before the Democratic Convention as a means of placating the Bernie wing of the party and solidifying their acceptance of Hillary as the candidate. Bernie and others had complained about her favoritism towards Clinton long before then, but there were embarrassing revelations in the Russian hacked e-mails.
BTW, hacking people's e ...[text shortened]... mails is a crime, a Democratic politician supporting Candidate A rather than Candidate B is not.
Election meddling is not her job. That is ridiculous.
DWS was a tool of Clinton. After she was resigned it is not surprising she went to work for Clinton's campaign. She was an obedient tool.
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople An illegal investigation was started because of alleged Trump/Russia collusion. Do keep your facts straight, just another weasel attempt.
I put election meddling in " " as you seem to be making no distinction between the "meddling" of supporting one candidate over another and the meddling of stealing stuff from a political campaign and then making it public to help a particular candidate win.
Here's some more interesting stuff from the indictment:
“On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent.”
That candidate appears to have been Florida Republican Brian Mast.https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/07/13/florida-republicans-play-starring-roles-in-russia-hacking-indictment-510037
So a Republican's campaign was asking for stolen documents to help their campaign. Illegal much?
Originally posted by @no1marauder Here's some more interesting stuff from the indictment:
“On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent.”
That cand ...[text shortened]... So a Republican's campaign was asking for stolen documents to help their campaign. Illegal much?
11 indictments against Russians
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