18 children dead in Texas shooting

18 children dead in Texas shooting

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@capacrapa said
Focus on security first.
Then focus on the why does it happen.

You can't walk into court without being searched or scanned.
You can't walk into government buildings or prisons.

Use the same procedures with schools and then when they are relatively safe...start looking at the why does it happen.
It’s a bloody school. Not a court.
Next you’ll have armed guards at concerts, cinemas, football games… what the hell is wrong with you?
What sort of civilization are you creating?

We all know what the problem is.
- gun ownership
- poverty
- individualism maxed out
- no functioning health or social services

So, kids (and adults) are locked in their own worlds, no way out, no professionals to pick up early warning signals; so nobody able to intervene and guns readily available.

Get a grip on reality.

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@shavixmir

American guns saved you and your country from the nazis so show a little respect Mark ๐Ÿคจ

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Interestingly enough...this site has moderators...

No different than armed guards ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@shavixmir
Don't you get it, Shav? CrapaCrapa and his ilk do. not. care. The rest is all posturing.

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@shavixmir

I don't know why you keep going with the poverty argument.
There will always be poor people. Always has, Always will.
You would have to create a society without money to eliminate poverty and that is not possible.

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@capacrapa said
ABC News altered his picture to appear more white! Lmao

He's clearly South American but ABC News used a filter to make his face white!

Lmao ๐Ÿคฃ
You do know that almost half of South Americans are "white", don't you (with most of the rest being mixed between European and native stock)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_America

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@no1marauder

His real pic and the one ABC showed are clearly different.

ABC filtered his darker skin so it would be white.

(They can't hide his name though ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

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Thoughts and prayers!

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@CapaCrapa

In which photos does he appear less white than white to you, Crapa?

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@capacrapa said
@no1marauder

His real pic and the one ABC showed are clearly different.

ABC filtered his darker skin so it would be white.

(They can't hide his name though ๐Ÿ˜‰ )
You know this ........................................... how?

This Houston newspaper used the same picture (https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2022/05/24/[WORD TOO LONG]/) as did the NY Post.

BTW, there was a police officer at the school:

"The suspect, who was wearing body armor, was immediately engaged outside the building as he approached the school by a Uvalde Independent School District police officer, who was shot by the suspect, the sources said."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-elementary-school-reports-active-shooter-campus/story?id=84940951

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@capacrapa said
@shavixmir

American guns saved you and your country from the nazis so show a little respect Mark ๐Ÿคจ
Suck my anus.

The USSR destroyed Hitler. The rest wpuld have been a matter of time. Americans or no bloody Americans.

And even if the opposite were true, then it’s still got no bearing on gun related mass shootings in the US today.

Moron.

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@capacrapa said
@shavixmir

I don't know why you keep going with the poverty argument.
There will always be poor people. Always has, Always will.
You would have to create a society without money to eliminate poverty and that is not possible.
Poverty is one part of the conclusion I spelled out for you. It’s the mix that leads to so many shootings.

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@no1marauder said
You know this ........................................... how?

BTW, there was a police officer at the school:

"The suspect, who was wearing body armor, was immediately engaged outside the building as he approached the school by a Uvalde Independent School District police officer, who was shot by the suspect, the sources said."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-elementary-school-reports-active-shooter-campus/story?id=84940951
Wrong.


A border patrol agent heard the shots and went into the school.

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@capacrapa said
Wrong.


A border patrol agent heard the shots and went into the school.
Not, it's not "wrong". From another source:

"Texas public safety officials said Ramos then left his home in a truck, which he crashed in a ditch outside Robb Elementary School. He got out with an AR-15 style rifle and numerous magazines, law enforcement sources told ABC News. He was also wearing body armor.

As he approached the school, an Uvalde ISD school resource officer engaged the suspect, but Ramos shot him, law enforcement sources said."

https://6abc.com/uvalde-texas-robb-elementary-school-active-shooter-district-lockdown/11889693/

And another:

"The 18-year-old gunman shot his grandmother before driving to Robb Elementary School in Uvalde and, armed with a rifle, overpowered a school officer and entered the school, DPS Sgt. Erick Estrada said. "

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/05/24/live-updates-uvalde-texas-school-shooting/9913969002/

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@no1marauder

I also just read another article that said up to 4 cops may have been there prior.

Armed? I don't know.