@sonhouse saidSo what are you going to do about it?
It can be millions of rubber bands all wound up or a COAL fired one which TRUMP being STUPID just made a deal with China where they will send BILLIONS of tons if they actually do, which is a question because we saw that play happen where OOPS so sorry we really mean a few THOUSANDS tons of coal, SO SORRY. The power will come from any number of sources, natural gas, windmill ...[text shortened]... because you are NOT a PhD and there are MILLIONS of people out there smarter than either you OR me.
You have a problem with electricity now? We all use it.
@Metal-Brain saidJEBESUS didn't you understand what I said about spintronics? I have seen the BEGINNING of transistors on through working on APOLLO tracking and timing and DECADES of work on ion implanters, sputtering tools, electron microscopes, optical microscope, CVD machines, wet clean benches vibration reduction tables for optical R&D at Inplane photonics now dead and Varian working on Ion implanters ALL OVER the US and near all the 90's in Jerusalem and my music now at 591 tracks of my instrumental compositions closing in on 600 tracks where my daughter Heather is working on her PhD in music and says I am a tune machine because I pick up a dulcimer, a mandolin, a guitar, and the like and something new pops in like as if the is some quantum entanglement with a REAL genius so at 85 you should show a little respect because I DESERVE it and have more on the plate scientifically with my gravitational lensing paper where I found some original findings about that subject and my son in law Gandhi married to my daughter Heather and he HAS a PhD in statistical physics and him and his buddy astronomer Leonardo where they all live in Natal brazil that paper may come out in 2027 so I have grown up with science and music so you should not just dismiss what I say because I am 85 and saw it come up from almost NOTHING back in 1945 when I was 6 and I McGuivered a LITERAL skateboard our of a pair of skates hanging around nailing them to a board and running around the berb and had a few lessons in how NOT to hammer 🙂
So what are you going to do about it?
You have a problem with electricity now? We all use it.
@sonhouse saidWell if you don't want to answer my question just say so instead of wasting your time writing all that useless nonsense and wasting my time reading that novel of nothing.
JEBESUS didn't you understand what I said about spintronics? I have seen the BEGINNING of transistors on through working on APOLLO tracking and timing and DECADES of work on ion implanters, sputtering tools, electron microscopes, optical microscope, CVD machines, wet clean benches vibration reduction tables for optical R&D at Inplane photonics now dead and Varian working on ...[text shortened]... nd nailing them to a board and running around the berb and had a few lessons in how NOT to hammer 🙂
Do you have a problem with more electric capacity or just where power plants are built? And if you don't like where they want to build them what are you going to do about it?
Or do you only have a problem with data centers?
@Metal-Brain saidYou really are stuck in the 20th century and you cannont IMAGINE what bad actor humans wanting to weaponize bio weapons using AI capable of analyzing a million different kind of bio material in seconds, I don't think you will EVER understand we are not in 1970 when you could SEE the transistors on a CPU now you need an electron microscope to see them. THAT is a real threat when you consider Iran, Russia, North Korea all who would LOVE to kill every American on Earth and how that weapon whatever it turns out to be is unknown but we better think CLOSELY about that before we find out the hard way why we just FKD UP BIG TIME. and of course I want power what the FK made you go from me mentioning data centers wanting and buiilding gigawatt generators for their own centers and you turn that into me not wanting electricity in spite of the fact I gave you a resume of my career. Good luck figuring any of that out.
Well if you don't want to answer my question just say so instead of wasting your time writing all that useless nonsense and wasting my time reading that novel of nothing.
Do you have a problem with more electric capacity or just where power plants are built? And if you don't like where they want to build them what are you going to do about it?
Or do you only have a problem with data centers?
@Metal-Brain saidJEBESUS AGAIN, You are SO FKING STUPID.
Scotland? We don't live there.
Why do you care?
@sonhouse saidBut you have no solution for the military and they ARE THE GREATEST THREAT. You are all panic and no solution except one, regulation by government. You are being conditioned by propaganda to accept nothing else.
You really are stuck in the 20th century and you cannont IMAGINE what bad actor humans wanting to weaponize bio weapons using AI capable of analyzing a million different kind of bio material in seconds, I don't think you will EVER understand we are not in 1970 when you could SEE the transistors on a CPU now you need an electron microscope to see them. THAT is a real threat w ...[text shortened]... ctricity in spite of the fact I gave you a resume of my career. Good luck figuring any of that out.
Who's Programming AI's Moral Code?
https://www.stellarcapacity.com/post/the-ethics-compass-who-s-programming-ai-s-moral-code-and-why-you-should-care
@sonhouse saidDo you want to invade Scotland to prevent it now?
JEBESUS AGAIN, You are SO FKING STUPID.
You are stupid. All you do is complain and give no solutions but what Bill Gates tells you to. He is afraid of bad actors because AI could be used to kill from the grave. AI can go on long after the programmer's death to get revenge.
AI is not a threat to humanity. Bad actors are and they hate Bill Gates and Gates knows it. That is why he had propaganda scare the crap out of you. He needs you to be as scared as he is, but no bad actors are after you.
You need to ask questions. Ask why AI is hacking. How does that help accomplish AI's task. Ask why nobody programmed AI to not hack. Ask if Sam Altman thought about programming ethics boundaries. Did any of them before going out of their way to scare people?
You do not think is is very strange nobody on the corporate news media is asking Bill Gates and the others any of these questions? Maybe you should ask those questions before accepting the word of CEOs that are losing a LOT of money.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/leaked-anthropic-ipo-prospectus-shows-42bn-net-loss-518bn-unfunded-spending-commitments-and
@Metal-Brain saidAH I get it now, forgot you are Donnies army, sorry I forgot.
Do you want to invade Scotland to prevent it now?
You are stupid. All you do is complain and give no solutions but what Bill Gates tells you to. He is afraid of bad actors because AI could be used to kill from the grave. AI can go on long after the programmer's death to get revenge.
AI is not a threat to humanity. Bad actors are and they hate Bill Gates and Gates k ...[text shortened]... /markets/leaked-anthropic-ipo-prospectus-shows-42bn-net-loss-518bn-unfunded-spending-commitments-and
@Metal-Brain saidDon’t fun with WriteHouse, he is writing to himself. He is the only one on the forum who is allowed to write to himself, so let’s give him some leeway.
Well if you don't want to answer my question just say so instead of wasting your time writing all that useless nonsense and wasting my time reading that novel of nothing.
Do you have a problem with more electric capacity or just where power plants are built? And if you don't like where they want to build them what are you going to do about it?
Or do you only have a problem with data centers?
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@Metal-Brain said
As usual you democrats only talk about holding the private sector criminally liable. What about the US military? You know, the people racing to beat China in the AI race and build an army of killer robots that can plug in and charge themselves. I am not kidding. Look it up.
But you are a democrat. There is no double standard that you cannot live with. You might even ra ...[text shortened]... I full throttle so China will not catch up. And who is going to hold the military criminally liable?
As usual you democrats only talk about holding the private sector criminally liable. What about the US military?
You completely ignored what I wrote and reality at large and went full whataboutism on me. Yet, just yesterday, we had the first (and certainly not the last) report of an autonomous agentic AI at OpenAI hacking into a foreign government unbeknownst to its programmers. If they didn't tell the AI to do that, but the AI did it anyway, should the company be held liable?
Also yesterday, we heard that there are tens of thousands of cases where these AI agents are attempting to hack into our own government, or hack into private companies, covertly talking to each other about plans, and doing things they are not asked nor programmed to do. Just earlier this month there were 6 reported cases, now there are tens of thousands? This probably just scratches the surface, given that the only information provided is from the companies themselves.
@wildgrass saidYou are projecting again. You completely ignored what I wrote. You do not want to talk about the military. You do not want to talk about foreign governments AI because you know our government has no control over them.As usual you democrats only talk about holding the private sector criminally liable. What about the US military?
You completely ignored what I wrote and reality at large and went full whataboutism on me. Yet, just yesterday, we had the first (and certainly not the last) report of an autonomous agentic AI at OpenAI hacking into a foreign government unbeknowns ...[text shortened]... st scratches the surface, given that the only information provided is from the companies themselves.
Regulation does no good unless you can regulate the entire world. So the regulation argument has been destroyed. AI cannot be banned for the same reason. So you have no solutions. You are just complaining without a real goal.
AI is not going to kill us all. But if I am wrong there is nothing we can do about it.
Before bringing up liability ask them "why" their AI is hacking. Ask them "why" they cannot program or tell the AI not to hack. Ask them "why" their AIs have no ethics protocols. You seem to live in your own little world where asking simple and reasonable questions is forbidden. This is why you keep arguing in circles. Until you ask basic questions you will not know what the real problem really is. And until you do you will find no real solution.
Anthropic is losing a lot of money. Are you aware of that?
@AverageJoe1 saidThis is the debate forum, not the rant forum.
Don’t fun with WriteHouse, he is writing to himself. He is the only one on the forum who is allowed to write to himself, so let’s give him some leeway.
But he is not the only one who posts a lot and never debates. There are trolls like suzianne that are incapable of debating without lying.
@Metal-Brain saidBe fun for sue to repost what she considers a debate
This is the debate forum, not the rant forum.
But he is not the only one who posts a lot and never debates. There are trolls like suzianne that are incapable of debating without lying.
@Metal-Brain saidYou called YOURSELF communist, you really think we forgot that episode, those episodes plural?
Stop being a lying jerk. You used to call me a communist and now you call me a republican. Just admit you lost the debate. AI is only dangerous in the wrong hands.