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@sonhouse said
You called YOURSELF communist, you really think we forgot that episode, those episodes plural?
Then why are you calling me trumpian or whatever it was?
I don't like trump and you know it.


@Metal-Brain said
Then why are you calling me trumpian or whatever it was?
I don't like trump and you know it.
RIGHT. You defend Trump on every turn, NEVER said he is in fact CORRUPT, THE MOST CORRUPT POS TRAITOR in US HISTORY. So tell me wny you condone that behavior

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@Metal-Brain said
You are projecting again. You completely ignored what I wrote. You do not want to talk about the military. You do not want to talk about foreign governments AI because you know our government has no control over them.

Regulation does no good unless you can regulate the entire world. So the regulation argument has been destroyed. AI cannot be banned for the same reason ...[text shortened]... you do you will find no real solution.

Anthropic is losing a lot of money. Are you aware of that?
You are projecting again. You completely ignored what I wrote. You do not want to talk about the military

I'm not sure what's happening there with the military. You should explain your point further.
Regulation does no good unless you can regulate the entire world.

No this is not true. AI built in the USA is hacking into USA companies. It is possibly doing this tens of thousands of times in the last months, although we don't have precise figures. Regulating the agentic AI to make companies liable for harm their bots do to companies is necessary to hold them accountable on the issue of safety. Even if your statement were true, we have regulatory precedent for that too, with the handling of nuclear weapons.
Before bringing up liability ask them "why" their AI is hacking. Ask them "why" they cannot program or tell the AI not to hack. Ask them "why" their AIs have no ethics protocols. You seem to live in your own little world where asking simple and reasonable questions is forbidden.

If you think these are simple questions, then I would kindly ask that you answer them. They do not seem like simple questions to me. In fact, the agentic AI seem to have been deliberately built to avoid audits of their "thought' processes. In some instances we have evidence because they were writing to each other in a group chat, but for the most part it appears that they are doing illegal things in order to complete a legal task and then covering their tracks so the humans don't find out about it. Again, this has already happened tens of thousands of times and the bots are only getting smarter and stronger and more ubiquitous every day.

I think it's leading down a very dangerous road that philosophers have been warning us about since 1863.


@wildgrass said
You are projecting again. You completely ignored what I wrote. You do not want to talk about the military

I'm not sure what's happening there with the military. You should explain your point further.
Regulation does no good unless you can regulate the entire world.

No this is not true. AI built in the USA is hacking into USA companies. It is ...[text shortened]... ink it's leading down a very dangerous road that philosophers have been warning us about since 1863.
I told you our military is building killer robots so I did explain perfectly. Why are you pretending I did not?

People are hacking into US companies. Have been for years. Now all the sudden you have a problem with hacking because an AI did it? And why are you still refusing to ask simple and logical questions? You are still letting the corporate news media do your thinking for you.

Why did it hack in the first place? How did that help it accomplish the task it was given? Why didn't the AI company subsequently tell their AI to do a task without hacking? Better yet, why didn't they do they right thing and program their AI not to ever hack again after they discovered a problem?


@wildgrass

You are not trying to understand anything.
Not that you alone are to blame. It is largely an institutional problem.
You have been indoctrinated to not question things so you can understand.


@Metal-Brain said
@wildgrass

You are not trying to understand anything.
Not that you alone are to blame. It is largely an institutional problem.
You have been indoctrinated to not question things so you can understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl3OLK9vP1o
I think it's leading down a very dangerous road that philosophers have been warning us about since 1863.


@AverageJoe1 said
Is that you, Sonhouse.? He has said T is corrupt, but he has not been found to be corrupt. You are bedfellows.
I am of the opinion that zKamala is an idiot. Where is that made a fact anywhere. It is my opinion, that’s all.
Hope this helps you straw-grasping ravers.
Like all the Dems running for office, you have nothing but Trump Trump Trump, you are running on ...[text shortened]... and salaries of 2 employees. Do you fault my doing that? Why can’t he?
TDS has fried your brain(s).
Your basic argument here is that if there is political corruption but no one is there to prosecute it or refuses to prosecute it, then it didn't happen?

A tree falls in the forest but no one hears it so the tree never fell.


@Metal-Brain said
Stop being a lying jerk. You used to call me a communist and now you call me a republican. Just admit you lost the debate. AI is only dangerous in the wrong hands.
? So who are the right hand? Who will decide which country will do AI right?… will AOC decide who the right hands are?
Your post is silly, as we know that China is automatically not a right hand. China is a wrong hand. I think we can all stipulate to that.
And as far as your post goes about hacking into other systems, do you not think we should have the same ability to hack, whether we do it or not? And in other words, we have to have the same ability to use AI as the bad guys do. We can certainly stipulate to that as well.
That should clear our discussion field a bit. Y’all carry on, I am more of an erudite person ,, know nothing about science.
Haha again, to think you are writing to differentiate who is to say which countries are the ones who will not use AI responsibly!!!!!!
Y’all type your guts out, I will let yall do that while I spend my hours working on golf and reading The Winds of War.


@Metal-Brain said
@wildgrass

You are not trying to understand anything.
Not that you alone are to blame. It is largely an institutional problem.
You have been indoctrinated to not question things so you can understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl3OLK9vP1o
I can’t wait to see you guys kicking and screaming when you have to submit to the Trump Dictum that the world shall reference Henceforth to SI in lieu of AI!!

Poor Sonhouse…..following in line with Trump!!!! He CHANGES the name to SI!!!


@AverageJoe1 said
I can’t wait to see you guys kicking and screaming when you have to submit to the Trump Dictum that the world shall reference Henceforth to SI in lieu of AI!!

Poor Sonhouse…..following in line with Trump!!!! He CHANGES the name to SI!!!
Idiots.


@Metal-Brain said
@wildgrass

You are not trying to understand anything.
Not that you alone are to blame. It is largely an institutional problem.
You have been indoctrinated to not question things so you can understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl3OLK9vP1o
There are always humans who will betray us to the next overlords.


@sonhouse said
RIGHT. You defend Trump on every turn, NEVER said he is in fact CORRUPT, THE MOST CORRUPT POS TRAITOR in US HISTORY. So tell me wny you condone that behavior
Like they all do. They think they'll get a piece of the pie.


@Metal-Brain said
Then why are you calling me trumpian or whatever it was?
I don't like trump and you know it.
Yet you still enable him.


@Metal-Brain said
But you have no solution for the military and they ARE THE GREATEST THREAT. You are all panic and no solution except one, regulation by government. You are being conditioned by propaganda to accept nothing else.

Who's Programming AI's Moral Code?

https://www.stellarcapacity.com/post/the-ethics-compass-who-s-programming-ai-s-moral-code-and-why-you-should-care
Elon Musk. And that doesn't scare you?


@Metal-Brain said
This is the debate forum, not the rant forum.
But he is not the only one who posts a lot and never debates. There are trolls like suzianne that are incapable of debating without lying.
Hypocrite.