@techsouth saidI went back 18 years and quit:
I kind of wish RHP forum history went back far enough because I could demonstrate some very compelling examples of just that.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates.18/page-556
@jj-adams saidWhoa!!! A few years ago I was looking back and seemingly it had a cutoff that was not that far back. I don't know if it was my mistake, or if RHP has restored some history that were previously archived. I'll have to go back when I have time.
I went back 18 years and quit:
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates.18/page-556
@techsouth saidtry wayback machine
Whoa!!! A few years ago I was looking back and seemingly it had a cutoff that was not that far back. I don't know if it was my mistake, or if RHP has restored some history that were previously archived. I'll have to go back when I have time.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041013101012/http://timeforchess.com/board/threadlist.php?forumid=18
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@mott-the-hoople saidDid we decide whether it's ok to remove classified documents or not? Or is this whole thread partisan hackery? Its ok for one political to do it but not the other? Trying to parse minute details that distinguish the two incidents and make it ok for trumpo to do it but not Biden?
try wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20041013101012/http://timeforchess.com/board/threadlist.php?forumid=18
@wildgrass saidif either did it illegally I want them prosecuted. but hillary did it and got away with it so theres that
Did we decide whether it's ok to remove classified documents or not? Or is this whole thread partisan hackery? Its ok for one political to do it but not the other? Trying to parse minute details that distinguish the two incidents and make it ok for trumpo to do it but not Biden?
@wildgrass saidIt is not supposed to be political, by personal ideology, or the likable/dislikable. It is purely security clearance and need to know, on top of material handling. There are laws and it doesn’t matter who you are, even having a brain-fart is not an acceptable excuse for mishandling classified material. Bringing up Trump’s name to excuse Biden or Biden’s name to excuse Trump may play well in party politics but never should with respect to the law.
Did we decide whether it's ok to remove classified documents or not? Or is this whole thread partisan hackery? Its ok for one political to do it but not the other? Trying to parse minute details that distinguish the two incidents and make it ok for trumpo to do it but not Biden?
@kellyjay saidI'm treating this story like Jan 6 hearing. Let me know when you all find out everything!! Reams of papers and opinions are full of this, it is prob 50/50. Some libs here, for example, think Biden has done no wrong, when, of course, he most certainly has.
It is not supposed to be political, by personal ideology, or the likable/dislikable. It is purely security clearance and need to know, on top of material handling. There are laws and it doesn’t matter who you are, even having a brain-fart is not an acceptable excuse for mishandling classified material. Bringing up Trump’s name to excuse Biden or Biden’s name to excuse Trump may play well in party politics but never should with respect to the law.
Is anyone puzzled that FBI has not raided his house? What in the world?? But, at Mara Lago, .....oh, never mind.
@averagejoe1 saidhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/penn-biden-center-where-classified-papers-were-found-is-a-dark-money-nightmare/ar-AA16eE2T?li=BBnb7Kz
I'm treating this story like Jan 6 hearing. Let me know when you all find out everything!! Reams of papers and opinions are full of this, it is prob 50/50. Some libs here, for example, think Biden has done no wrong, when, of course, he most certainly has.
Is anyone puzzled that FBI has not raided his house? What in the world?? But, at Mara Lago, .....oh, never mind.
Your man/boy is in trouble. Not about just the files,,,,,do you know of the millions from China? Jesus
When I was in the Army a guy in our office got a document stamped "Top Secret...EYES ONLY."
Not a big deal it happened once in a while.
Anyway he held it up and said "Looka what I got" and then the guy next to him grabbed it out of his hands and we played keep-away with it for a minute.
Good times.
@averagejoe1 saidThis story won't rise to the level of Jan 6th.
I'm treating this story like Jan 6 hearing. Let me know when you all find out everything!! Reams of papers and opinions are full of this, it is prob 50/50. Some libs here, for example, think Biden has done no wrong, when, of course, he most certainly has.
Is anyone puzzled that FBI has not raided his house? What in the world?? But, at Mara Lago, .....oh, never mind.
Unless you're dreaming, of course.
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@averagejoe1 saidFBI hasn't raided Biden's house because he has cooperated fully with the investigation.
I'm treating this story like Jan 6 hearing. Let me know when you all find out everything!! Reams of papers and opinions are full of this, it is prob 50/50. Some libs here, for example, think Biden has done no wrong, when, of course, he most certainly has.
Is anyone puzzled that FBI has not raided his house? What in the world?? But, at Mara Lago, .....oh, never mind.
Trump was given 4 months to produce the documents. Then the raid happened.
You just want the raid so that the media will give the right wingers the political red meat they think they deserve.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat millions from China ?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/penn-biden-center-where-classified-papers-were-found-is-a-dark-money-nightmare/ar-AA16eE2T?li=BBnb7Kz
Your man/boy is in trouble. Not about just the files,,,,,do you know of the millions from China? Jesus
That investigation hasn't started yet.
Maybe you should be called as a witness. 😆
@mghrn55 said"FBI hasn't raided Biden's house because he has cooperated fully with the investigation."
FBI hasn't raided Biden's house because he has cooperated fully with the investigation.
Trump was given 4 months to produce the documents. Then the raid happened.
You just want the raid so that the media will give the right wingers the political red meat they think they deserve.
There has not been an investigation. It is unknown how many documents the bidens have and have sold.
@kellyjay saidWhat nations and what millions? Do you mean the millions and sordid photos that Trump traded US foreign policy and a cache of intel documents to the Rus for?
Treason is a possibility due to foreign nations being involved with millions of dollars changing hands.
This is definitely apples and oranges in terms on intent and transparency but both are in the wrong on the point of mishandling state documents. The biggest culprit is probably the auditing system, or lack of one, that allows classified documents to disappear into the long grass.