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    07 Apr '19 19:51
    @no1marauder said
    My statement was about the State, not socialism.

    Socialism "worked" in this imperfect world for most of Man's existence on Earth. Of course, it could work now; what is so impracticable about those producing being in control of the fruits of their labor?

    EDIT: Again the definition:

    SOCIALISM: a social system in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods.

    Why couldn't that work in our imperfect world?
    Again, if "true socialism" does not require the state they you are free to create your socialist utopia like the Amish.

    I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is forcing it down everyone's throat.
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    07 Apr '19 19:571 edit
    @kazetnagorra said
    Feel free to amend or clarify your position vis-à-vis harm inflicted upon others. The last time you attempted to do so, you denied the existence of pollution. Perhaps this time you will fare better?
    I denied the existence of pollution huh? This is a new turn in your story, This must have been more recent than the alleged 'ban hospitals' thing, you must be able to quote this one, you must be able to save some face.
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    07 Apr '19 20:12
    @wajoma said
    I denied the existence of pollution huh? This is a new turn in your story, This must have been more recent than the alleged 'ban hospitals' thing, you must be able to quote this one, you must be able to save some face.
    And if you want more limited government, you are an anarchist.

    It's like asking for a vanilla ice cream cone and being called a racist.
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    07 Apr '19 20:23
    @wajoma said
    I denied the existence of pollution huh? This is a new turn in your story, This must have been more recent than the alleged 'ban hospitals' thing, you must be able to quote this one, you must be able to save some face.
    Indeed it is what you claimed, but you are of course more than welcome to expand on your position to clear up any possible misunderstandings.
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    07 Apr '19 21:331 edit
    @whodey said
    Again, if "true socialism" does not require the state they you are free to create your socialist utopia like the Amish.

    I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is forcing it down everyone's throat.
    Capitalism has been imposed on the People; should it not be their choice to move to a different economic system if they so choose?

    Your real problem is that most Americans don't agree with your ideas, so you and the rest of the right actively support measures to either disenfranchise them altogether or to maintain undemocratic institutions that thwart the People's will. This is a political strategy that sooner or later will fail unless the US becomes totalitarian.
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    08 Apr '19 00:13
    @kazetnagorra said
    Indeed it is what you claimed, but you are of course more than welcome to expand on your position to clear up any possible misunderstandings.
    Unfortunately for you I will no longer be entertaining your trollery. Your years long 'ban hospitals' trollery has been of curiosity value only, a weirdo episode in RHP message board history, at least the anonymity of this message board means I don't have to worry about you stalking my house, such has been your fanaticism,

    ...but no more.

    Let us see the quote where I (KN) 'denied the existence of pollution'.
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    08 Apr '19 15:23
    @no1marauder said
    Capitalism has been imposed on the People; should it not be their choice to move to a different economic system if they so choose?

    Your real problem is that most Americans don't agree with your ideas, so you and the rest of the right actively support measures to either disenfranchise them altogether or to maintain undemocratic institutions that thwart the People's will. This is a political strategy that sooner or later will fail unless the US becomes totalitarian.
    Indeed, just like the people of Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, or North Korea, or Venezuela.

    Nothing was ever imposed on them, was it.
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