@AThousandYoung saidI know they are distinct - Hebrews (who no longer exist) are not Levantine Arabs.
It sounds like you're saying they don't have any Palestinian blood. Or are you still incorrectly conflating "Levantine" with "Hebrew"?
My theory is that a significant amount of Jews remained in the Holy Land or returned to it shortly after, and lots of them converted to Christianity because they saw that, when the veil was rent and the Second Temple thereafter shortly fell, persisting in Judaism was actually incorrect. The Messiah had come.
And that the Palestinians are basically the first among Christians, because the second that they gave up Judaism they were no longer Hebrews in the classical sense. They were Palestinians.
The Christians were the first Palestinians.
@AThousandYoung saidRight! There is an ethnic group of Assyrians that still exist.
You still cling to the strawman that being Jewish or "a Hebrew" is based purely on genetics.
Did you know forced assimilation is genocide?
Once you come to understand that concept then maybe you'll understand what I'm actually saying.
BTW Indigenous Iraqis are also known as Assyrians. They're not "Muslim Arab Iraqis" they are mostly Christians who speak Arama ...[text shortened]... their blood is of minor importance in this context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people
The Middle East is a beautiful place because of its remarkable diversity.
And the number of Christians that remain in these places is vanishingly small because of the chaos of wars that are fought on behalf of Israel by the United States as part of the greater strategy of keeping all of Israel's enemies weak and disunited.
"Forced assimilation is genocide?" Could be. But we are talking about being citizens in a classical liberal republic, not giving up one's religion, language, or culture.
@Rajk999 saidYou got me wrong there. I DO condemn the attacks on Oct 7. Hamas has NO RIGHT to attack innocents for the policies of the Israeli govt, just like Israel has NO RIGHT to target civilians in response to Hamas' atrocities.
The answer is "Why did Hamas target people who had nothing to do with the Israels action" Why are you taking so long to see my answer? Because your mind is hypocritical. Hamas can commit atrocities, but when faced with the same atrocities from others they call genocide, and war crimes. Both Hamas and your type are hypocrites.
Here is a question : Lets say T ...[text shortened]... they continue the war and the people are the ones to suffer.
Please stop asking stupid questions.
And that is where I am consistent with my sense of justice, but YOU ARE NOT!
A citizen CANNOT be held accountable for the acts of his govt, since the citizen may or may not have agreed with the govt's decision. Which is why targeting civilians on purpose is deemed a war crime as per international laws.
Which is what the Israeli govt has violated.
Makes sense??
@sameeh saidIts amazing how Muslims and terrorist supporters are blind to their hypocrisy.
You got me wrong there. I DO condemn the attacks on Oct 7. Hamas has NO RIGHT to attack innocents for the policies of the Israeli govt, just like Israel has NO RIGHT to target civilians in response to Hamas' atrocities.
And that is where I am consistent with my sense of justice, but YOU ARE NOT!
A citizen CANNOT be held accountable for the acts of his govt, since the citi ...[text shortened]... ar crime as per international laws.
Which is what the Israeli govt has violated.
Makes sense??
Let me repeat this :
Hamas attacked raped and killed Jewish women and children.
Dont cry now, when the same is happening to them.
Its really taking long to get that in your head.
@Rajk999 saidIts amazing how you dont get a simple fact into your head - most muslims (including myself) dont agree with Hamas, and condemn what they did.
Its amazing how Muslims and terrorist supporters are blind to their hypocrisy.
Let me repeat this :
Hamas attacked raped and killed Jewish women and children.
Dont cry now, when the same is happening to them.
Its really taking long to get that in your head.
You on the other hand, condemn the Hamas, but condone when Israel does the same.
Which of these is the real hypocrisy??
@Philokalia saidAll these personal comments and questions which have no bearing on the discussion is a sign of yet another failed argument. So far I have made no personal remarks about you, neither do I intend to make any. The Jews are a powerful force with or without the US. Also the Jews will never lose their support base in the US and the West because the alternative is supporting Islam. Islam is demonstrating right now as we speak how evil they are and people are learning.
We also sell you all the tech that is used, and the second and third largest recipients of US foreign aid? Egypt & Jordan, who are bribed to play nice with you, as well as the totality of the Arab league.
If we were to sit and enumerate the ways that the US sacrifices its interests for Israel and gives to this little apartheid state, we would be here all day.
I al ...[text shortened]... ge the importance of the US on the fate of Israel is because you believe hashem will protect Israel.
@sameeh saidWho cares what you agree with or whether or not an American citizen voted for Trump. If Trump attacks and kills random Mexican citizens including women and children, should the Mexican govt only attack and kill Trump supporters? This is the core of your argument, and it is lame, and hypocritical.
Its amazing how you dont get a simple fact into your head - most muslims (including myself) dont agree with Hamas, and condemn what they did.
You on the other hand, condemn the Hamas, but condone when Israel does the same.
Which of these is the real hypocrisy??
Yes I condone what Israel is doing.
@Rajk999 saidI am not even going to try and explain the stupidity of your first argument.
Who cares what you agree with or whether or not an American citizen voted for Trump. If Trump attacks and kills random Mexican citizens including women and children, should the Mexican govt only attack and kill Trump supporters? This is the core of your argument, and it is lame, and hypocritical.
Yes I condone what Israel is doing.
As for the 2nd line - that you condone Israel - that is the whole point, that your arguments are nothing but an exercise in hypocrisy.
I dont have anything more to add here. 🙂
@sameeh saidThank you for conceding. Basically your argument fails because this simple fact... A man who violates the Geneva Convention cannot complain that the ones he attacked is also violating the same Geneva Convention. Its the definition of hypocrisy.
I am not even going to try and explain the stupidity of your first argument.
As for the 2nd line - that you condone Israel - that is the whole point, that your arguments are nothing but an exercise in hypocrisy.
I dont have anything more to add here. 🙂
Hey here is the lesson. Be careful about starting a war with Israel. You Muslims dont have the firepower neither the brains to handle the Jews. Remember the Hexbollah pager bombs? Hilarious ..
@Rajk999 saidYes he can.
Thank you for conceding. Basically your argument fails because this simple fact... A man who violates the Geneva Convention cannot complain that the ones he attacked is also violating the same Geneva Convention. Its the definition of hypocrisy.
Hey here is the lesson. Be careful about starting a war with Israel. You Muslims dont have the firepower neither the brains to handle the Jews. Remember the Hexbollah pager bombs? Hilarious ..
Your opinion is just an opinion. Nothing more.
And considering you are all for murdering Palestinians in a genocide, the least you say, the bloody better.
@Rajk999 saidWhoa!! What did i concede? I think its high time you come out of your imaginative world 🙂
Thank you for conceding. Basically your argument fails because this simple fact... A man who violates the Geneva Convention cannot complain that the ones he attacked is also violating the same Geneva Convention. Its the definition of hypocrisy.
Hey here is the lesson. Be careful about starting a war with Israel. You Muslims dont have the firepower neither the brains to handle the Jews. Remember the Hexbollah pager bombs? Hilarious ..
"A man who violates the Geneva Convention cannot complain..."
Who is that "man" who violated the Geneva convention here? Can you please clarify?
I already mentioned i condemn both the Hamas action as well as the Israel reaction. It's YOU who maintain only one of them is to blame. You might want to look up the meaning of the word hypocrisy, given the above 🙂
@sameeh saidThe man who violates the Geneva Convention - Hamas and Arab Palestinians, all of whom rejoice when terrorists rape and murder Jewish women and children.
Whoa!! What did i concede? I think its high time you come out of your imaginative world 🙂
"A man who violates the Geneva Convention cannot complain..."
Who is that "man" who violated the Geneva convention here? Can you please clarify?
I already mentioned i condemn both the Hamas action as well as the Israel reaction. It's YOU who maintain only one of them is to blame. You might want to look up the meaning of the word hypocrisy, given the above 🙂
Your condemnation of Hamas with your mouth is meaningless to people to can see through your lies. When Hamas and the Arabs of Palestine have to actually pay for their deeds and their support of terrorists, you backtrack.
True condemnation of Hamas must include..
- destruction of homes and environment of terrorists
- dismantling the terrorists infrastructure - tunnels, weapons etc
- killing of all terrorists
- ensuring that they are not able to operate in the future.
This is what Israel is doing and this is what I support.
You on the other hand, are not fooling anyone with your hypocritical mouth condemnation, when your heart is with the terrorist.
@shavixmir saidThe least I say? I have no fear of you Muslims neither terrorist supporters ... take a hike.
Yes he can.
Your opinion is just an opinion. Nothing more.
And considering you are all for murdering Palestinians in a genocide, the least you say, the bloody better.
@Rajk999 saidI am sure that you know for a fact not every Palestinian supports the hamas.
The man who violates the Geneva Convention - Hamas and Arab Palestinians, all of whom rejoice when terrorists rape and murder Jewish women and children.
You are merely hiding behind this feigned stupidity so that you can whitewash Israel's war crimes
Anyone can see through your charade 🙂