@averagejoe1 saidSuzianne. Can you please respond to the above, am I not correct the cancel culture tells people what to do. But I make my own choice of whether to cancel Netflix or not. Do you see the difference? Are you there? Did u iverlook this post?
Suzianne, with all due respects....(and please understand, maybe come over to our side?)..... Cancel Culture is to cancel my rights, my freedom, my freedom to choose. It is trying to tell people what to do.
My deciding on my own to pick a flower or order a cup of coffee is my choice, like canceling Netflix. In other words, Cancel Culture would tell me what to do.
...[text shortened]... confusing to you, but it exemplifies our differences. Conservatives want to be left the hell alone.
@no1marauder saidWe had almost the same discussion a year ago about the halftime show featuring Shakira and J.Lo:
There is a difference here; in general, I assume very few people object to children dancing per se. So if you're going to say that a certain type of dancing is objectionable, I fail to see how you can do so without actually showing it.
You're entitled to your opinion, as is the director and writer of the film.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/25/us/shakira-jlo-super-bowl-halftime-show-fcc-complaints-trnd/index.html
Is it any wonder that when pop stars do this sort of thing, it eventually trickles down to a younger set, emulating their idols?
@no1marauder saidThat you fail to see how to do so merely tells us that you’d make for a lousy director.
There is a difference here; in general, I assume very few people object to children dancing per se. So if you're going to say that a certain type of dancing is objectionable, I fail to see how you can do so without actually showing it.
You're entitled to your opinion, as is the director and writer of the film.
Lots of movies show gruesome stuff without actually showing it.
In this case, the goal does not justify the means. You don’t ask eleven year olds to dance highly sexually in front of a camera and then turn that into a movie, no matter the intent. Child pornography does not suddenly become okay because the director “meant well”.
@great-king-rat saidBingo!!
Really? Why not go a step further then and actually show sexual intercourse between a child and a grown-up to “expose a problem”?
A cogent example, King Rat
@no1marauder saidyour *opinion*.
Calling this "child sexual abuse" is patently absurd and trivializes actual victims of real sexual abuse.
And I am not fond of it. 🤔
@earl-of-trumps saidYou know, these comments are the best proof of liberals holding fast on something that is appalling, anything to justify the ends. Do you realize not one of you has stepped up and said that this is a bit much. Could you maybe say that this is a little bit much, just a little bit? Please know that conservatives such as myself would be very wary to leave our children in the presence of liberals with these far out beliefs.
your *opinion*.
And I am not fond of it. 🤔
@mott-the-hoople saidYou spell it out to them in plain English and they still don't see it.
you cant see the difference between a child with a pretty dress on just standing or walking...and a child touching themselves and making suggestive moves? really?
And everyone wonders why the country (US, anyway) is going down the tubes.
@moonbus saidAnother ludicrous example. Get back down to the ground marauder before you embarrass yourself
We had almost the same discussion a year ago about the halftime show featuring Shakira and J.Lo:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/25/us/shakira-jlo-super-bowl-halftime-show-fcc-complaints-trnd/index.html
Is it any wonder that when pop stars do this sort of thing, it eventually trickles down to a younger set, emulating their idols?
@Great-King-Rat - Lots of movies show gruesome stuff without actually showing it.
So true.
I remember growing up seeing movies where a person was about to be shot and
the camera shifted to the victim's shadow on the wall, the gunshot was heard,
and the shadow of the man keels over.
Not making this up!
@great-king-rat saidThat you think what is in the movie is "child pornography" just shows a ridiculous rigidity of mind. No court would even consider it such except maybe in Iran.
That you fail to see how to do so merely tells us that you’d make for a lousy director.
Lots of movies show gruesome stuff without actually showing it.
In this case, the goal does not justify the means. You don’t ask eleven year olds to dance highly sexually in front of a camera and then turn that into a movie, no matter the intent. Child pornography does not suddenly become okay because the director “meant well”.
The girls weren't actually 11 (the lead character was played by a 14 year old) but that matters only tangentially.
The writer and director already explained the genesis of her idea for the film and the process hardly resembled the "ask eleven year olds to dance highly sexually in front of a camera and then turn that into a movie" that you created.
@earl-of-trumps saidDo you know of any jurisdiction that would consider what was in this movie "child sexual abuse" under its Penal Code?
your *opinion*.
And I am not fond of it. 🤔
So my opinion and the law's as well.
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@no1marauder saidNow you have us off into some 'jurisdiction'. I am talking about you being the jurisdiction in your own home. You know, deciding what is moral (for lack of a better word) and what is not. You surprise me on this one. Like I said, you fellers will defend ANY over-the-top liberal activities. Why is that, Marauder? You are almost defensive. You have gotten on the wrong horse.
Do you know of any jurisdiction that would consider what was in this movie "child sexual abuse" under its Penal Code?
So my opinion and the law's as well.
Some jurisdiction?
@great-king-rat saidYah... that’s exactly how it happened.
That you fail to see how to do so merely tells us that you’d make for a lousy director.
Lots of movies show gruesome stuff without actually showing it.
In this case, the goal does not justify the means. You don’t ask eleven year olds to dance highly sexually in front of a camera and then turn that into a movie, no matter the intent. Child pornography does not suddenly become okay because the director “meant well”.
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@shavixmir saidResponding to a small portion of a post instead of the entirety and the intent behind the post.
Yah... that’s exactly how it happened.
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Excellent 🙄