My poor Jerusalem...

@rajk999 said
I notice that now you are ignoring YOUR CALL for people to enforce OBEYING THE LAW. Why dont you admit that it is the Palestinians that ignored the British and the UN. They started the hostilities and tried to wipe out the Jews in 1948. The Jews were fine with the original partition. The Palestinians wanted ALL.

exactly, rajk, OBEY THRE LAW. Israel should let the expelled Palestinians back home AND end the ILLEGAL occupation

First things first and "Jews" were the first to violate major international laws and are still getting away with it.

Palestinians and supporters are striking back in defense, the way the brave Kuwati freedom fighters fought Iraq, to no evail

@Rajk999 - said The Palestinians lost then,

so did Kuwait. Want to keep going back there?

@rajk999 said
Well if you take that view then there was no law. So its like the wild wild west. If there is no law then there are no crimes. Land is up for grabs. The Palestinians lost then, and have lost all battles for the last 70 years. So we agree.

I never said that and that is certainly not a position I would adopt.

Apparently buildings holding news agencies that report facts Israel doesn't like are legitimate targets of war. https://apnews.com/article/israel-middle-east-business-israel-palestinian-conflict-f595d0ea0a7e21a4e4974ae55e00024d

"The world will know less about what is happening in Gaza because of what happened today."

Sounds like the Plan.

@rajk999 said
Both sides practiced guerilla warfare and terrorism. BOTH. Not getting involved with that. This is a simple point Im making in response to EoT's argument about the Jews OBEYING THE LAW, and UN guidelines now. There came a time in 1947 when after decades of civil unrest the ruling power, the British, together with UN formulated a 3 state plan. The Jews accepted, and the Pales ...[text shortened]... to OBEY THE LAW.

Stick with the facts, or provide your opinions. Just understand the difference.

They did not start the war.
The Stern gang, etc. were busy from 1940.
And many Jewish paramilitary groups were already active in the 30’s.

Ben Gurion was creating the basis for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians as Jews were being ethically cleansed in Europe.

Read some Ilian Pappe.

The Palestinian revolt, etc. was anti-British; against the selling off of their land to the Jewish immigrants. Basically... ethnic cleansing.

@no1marauder said
Apparently buildings holding news agencies that report facts Israel doesn't like are legitimate targets of war. https://apnews.com/article/israel-middle-east-business-israel-palestinian-conflict-f595d0ea0a7e21a4e4974ae55e00024d

"The world will know less about what is happening in Gaza because of what happened today."

Sounds like the Plan.

oh, shoot, yea. but AP still got the word out. Don't know about al Jazeera

@earl-of-trumps said
Hamas fired the rockets, no doubt.

Before that, who was firing tear gas and rubber bullets INSIDE a muslim mosque, for godssake.

The Israelis have no right ruling over the palestinians there, that is the point.

Israelis have a right to rule over anyone in their country

@shavixmir said
In case you’ve not noticed, the Israeli - Palestinian conflict has taken a wee turn for the worse.

Israeli police charging the Al-Aqsa Mosque firing rubber bullets and tear gas in the building itself... during ramadan...

Hamas firing rockets.

Israel bombing Gaza.

And gangs of Jews and Arab-Israelis attacking people on the streets of Israeli cities. This one is a ...[text shortened]... ps watching as matters unfold.

Watching and doing nothing never ends well. And neither will this.

Watching and doing nothing never ends well. And neither will this.


Agreed - This is what happens when more than one group claim the same piece of dirt as their God given land.

@mott-the-hoople said
Israelis have a right to rule over anyone in their country

you miss the point. It's NOT all Israel's country. They are in an ILLEGAL occupation,

@mchill said
Watching and doing nothing never ends well. And neither will this.


Agreed - This is what happens when more than one group claim the same piece of dirt as their God given land.

Mchill, are you old enough to remember Yasser Arafat's "What's in a name?" speech?

The Palestinians don't care as much what the name of the land is, they first want their homes and personal land back.

@earl-of-trumps said
you miss the point. It's NOT all Israel's country. They are in an ILLEGAL occupation,

no, they are not. Tell me, where is this country of palestine you speak of?

@mott-the-hoople said
no, they are not. Tell me, where is this country of palestine you speak of?

Not even the government of Israel claims that the West Bank or Gaza are part of their country's territory. IF they did, they'd have to grant Palestinians full citizen rights, including the right to vote, or stop pretending they are a "democracy".

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Well, they weren’t actually granted as much of the land in ‘48 as they’ve taken... and still take...