@no1marauder saidWhy not extend your reasoning to pneumonia and flu and extend school mask mandates forever? Surely mask mandates and even school closures and lockdowns will save "some" from those awful fates.
If you want to see actual "torture", go to the local hospital and watch someone dying of COVID.
To the extent mask mandates saved some from that awful fate, they were well worth the cost of whining from well-heeled parents and their overly entitled brat kids.
@sh76 saidWhy don't you show me a cost benefit analysis comparing:
Why not extend your reasoning to pneumonia and flu and extend school mask mandates forever? Surely mask mandates and even school closures and lockdowns will save "some" from those awful fates.
A) The "cost" of a child wearing a mask in a school with:
B) The cost of suffering and death that such mandates prevented?
COVID was a uniquely dangerous virus which killed over a million Americans and sickened and damaged millions more. Your callous minimization of its danger and opposition to protective measures supported by health officials, when put into policy by politicians, cost many lives. Only by personal self-delusion and Karenish self-centeredness do you ignore the blood on your hands.
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@no1marauder saidKey word in this post is "was". Glad you're willing to finally move on as we all should while not minimizing how dangerous it "was".
Why don't you show me a cost benefit analysis comparing:
A) The "cost" of a child wearing a mask in a school with:
B) The cost of suffering and death that such mandates prevented?
COVID was a uniquely dangerous virus which killed over a million Americans and sickened and damaged millions more. Your callous minimization of its danger and opposition to protective m ...[text shortened]... Only by personal self-delusion and Karenish self-centeredness do you ignore the blood on your hands.
@ullr saidMy area took off mask mandates in February. We have a high percentage of vaccinated and low case levels. However, there are still areas in the US where the opposite is true and where mask mandates probably should be imposed but most of those places are run by hard-core right wingers who like to appease COVID deniers like MB and COVID minimizers like Sh even if it results in more deaths and suffering.
Key word in this post is "was". Glad you're willing to finally move on as we all should while not minimizing how dangerous it "was".
@no1marauder saidThose that believe the stories of covid maximizers like yourself are free to protect themselves as much as they like. If you really did want to do some good you would advise the true believers what mask to wear, how to handle it, how to test it, how not to take it off and lay it on the table in the cafe.
My area took off mask mandates in February. We have a high percentage of vaccinated and low case levels. However, there are still areas in the US where the opposite is true and where mask mandates probably should be imposed but most of those places are run by hard-core right wingers who like to appease COVID deniers like MB and COVID minimizers like Sh even if it results in more deaths and suffering.
Given that 99% (and I'm being generous here in favour of the mask zombies) of adults wore the wrong mask and handled it incorrectly, forcing it on kids was torture and says a lot about your mental state. I'd like to say pointless torture but if it satisfies your vindictive maliciousness then there is a point.
I concede that masks could be effective, but only given certain specific conditions. You should be telling those that actually want to wear a mask what to do, that they need to obey mask protocol for a mask to work. For a start, a strict no facial hair policy. The mask should be tested for fit every time. Do you even know how to fit test your mask? If you're going to be a covid control freak maximiser, do it properly have some pride. When you don't do these things you're exposed for what you are, a psychopath more interested in control and manipulation than health.
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@wajoma saidNo one cares about your ridiculous ravings. The scientific studies I have presented and many more, show that both mask use and mask mandates were effective in reducing the spread of this deadly, contagious disease (you really don't have a "right" to give others diseases). That is more than sufficient to justify public health measures and only fringe nuts like yourself and dishonest politically motivated clowns like Sh would say differently (I suppose the deliberately ignorant would make a third category of likely opposition).
Those that believe the stories of covid maximizers like yourself are free to protect themselves as much as they like. If you really did want to do some good you would advise the true believers what mask to wear, how to handle it, how to test it, how not to take it off and lay it on the table in the cafe.
Given that 99% (and I'm being generous here in favour of the mask zom ...[text shortened]... u're exposed for what you are, a psychopath more interested in control and manipulation than health.
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@no1marauder said"The scientific studies I have presented and many more, show that both mask use and mask mandates were effective in reducing the spread of this deadly, contagious disease"
No one cares about your ridiculous ravings. The scientific studies I have presented and many more, show that both mask use and mask mandates were effective in reducing the spread of this deadly, contagious disease (you really don't have a "right" to give others diseases). That is more than sufficient to justify public health measures and only fringe nuts like yourself and ...[text shortened]... differently (I suppose the deliberately ignorant would make a third category of likely opposition).
No, they do not prove it. You are spreading misinformation.
You cannot tell people to do several things to slow the spread and credit only one factor. That is an unscientific conclusion and you know it.
Even a child has more common sense than pro maskers. It is hard to blow out candles with your mouth wide open. We all know that. Pro maskers live in their own little world where masks don't leak. They do leak. I proved it to my brother once by inhaling smoke from a joint and putting on a face mask I got from the hospital and coughed. Easy to prove.
My government told us the truth the first time when they told us masks did more harm than good. Then they figured out masks would increase vaccines sales through fear and reward. They told us if we take the gene vaccine we could stop wearing masks. Then they said vaccinated people still had to wear masks, then two masks. Why? BECAUSE THE GENE VACCINES DO NOT STOP SPREAD!
Since the gene vaccines do NOT stop spread everyone will get it. That alone makes ALL mandates useless except to prevent hospital over crowding. That is the only exception.
@no1marauder saidStop lying.
My area took off mask mandates in February. We have a high percentage of vaccinated and low case levels. However, there are still areas in the US where the opposite is true and where mask mandates probably should be imposed but most of those places are run by hard-core right wingers who like to appease COVID deniers like MB and COVID minimizers like Sh even if it results in more deaths and suffering.
I have never denied covid and you know it. You are being stupid.
@wajoma saidThis can probably honestly be downgraded and simplified to, "I don't wanna!!!!!"
Those that believe the stories of covid maximizers like yourself are free to protect themselves as much as they like. If you really did want to do some good you would advise the true believers what mask to wear, how to handle it, how to test it, how not to take it off and lay it on the table in the cafe.
Given that 99% (and I'm being generous here in favour of the mask zom ...[text shortened]... u're exposed for what you are, a psychopath more interested in control and manipulation than health.
@suzianne saidNo.
This can probably honestly be downgraded and simplified to, "I don't wanna!!!!!"
You and No1 are busybodies and control freaks, you like to tell other people what they have to do, and because you're too puss yourselves you want goobermint thugs to act out your fantasies.
All I was saying is; No1 and yourself would be better off trying to convince people who want to wear masks to wear them properly because easily 99% do not wear the correct mask or use their mask correctly.
I'm sure as a mask advocate you wear a fresh N95 mask every time, and that you fit check it every time you put it on, (don't forget the facial hair, have a fresh shave everyday) Any small gaps around the edge cause your exhaled breath to accelerate and travel greater distances than if you'd simply not worn one, so please tell us you check for fit every time and you know how to conduct that test
Please assure us (and this goes for No1) you wear a fresh N95 every time and you fit test it every time.
There is a long list of other conditions to follow, but the above conditions would be a start, then after 2 years you won't need to google all the other conditions that go to effective mask use they'll be auto habit and you'll be able to list them here in your own words.
@wajoma saidMandatory public health measures to control a deadly, contagious disease violate no "right" any individual possesses - you have no "right" to endanger the health and life of your fellow Man.
No.
You and No1 are busybodies and control freaks, you like to tell other people what they have to do, and because you're too puss yourselves you want goobermint thugs to act out your fantasies.
All I was saying is; No1 and yourself would be better off trying to convince people who want to wear masks to wear them properly because easily 99% do not wear the correct mask o ...[text shortened]... to effective mask use they'll be auto habit and you'll be able to list them here in your own words.
Your ridiculous Randian rants don't change or alter that basic principle. Complaining about such common sense measures is the intellectual equivalent of screaming against the "totalitarian" practice of hanging up traffic lights and stop signs.