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It would be impossible to arrest all of them. Once illegals started having a consequence for ignoring the laws of our country, I think many will leave on their own. I don't think we'd have to deal with 11 million.

Sure, there will be a cost, which is why it will never happen. I think it would be the right thing to do. But as I said earlier, too many people have too much to gain for having them here, so all there will ever be is talk. You have to say the right things to get elected, but then do nothing so that you can make the people who back you happy. It's called being a politician.

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Originally posted by FMF
Anyone? 11,000,000 more people in U.S. gaols seems unworkable. No?
It would create A LOT more JOBS and stimulate the economy. Roughly 11 million jobs would be freed up and Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers. Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.

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Originally posted by Eladar
It would be impossible to arrest all of them. Once illegals started having a consequence for ignoring the laws of our country, I think many will leave on their own. I don't think we'd have to deal with 11 million.
I would have thought there would be far more law enforcement officers murdered trying to hunt down or corner millions of people (ableit not 11 million) with 20 years in a desert tent prison hanging over them. Maybe thousands of dead officers.

I favour making the borders more secure, enforcing the law, but with some limited amnesty, necessary deportations, clampdown on illegal hiring, ultra tough on violent crime by non-American citizens, but - crucially - a revised immigration policy that allows more people to arrive in the U.S. legally, more expeditiously, and with a shorter waiting time.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
It would create A LOT more JOBS and stimulate the economy. Roughly 11 million jobs would be freed up and Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers. Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.
In a tongue-in-cheek call for immigration reform, farm workers are teaming up with comedian Stephen Colbert to challenge unemployed Americans: Come on, take our jobs...

California's agriculture industry launched a similar campaign in 1998, hoping to recruit welfare recipients and unemployed workers to work on farms, he said. Three people showed up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37906555/ns/business-us_business/

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
It would create A LOT more JOBS and stimulate the economy. Roughly 11 million jobs would be freed up and Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers. Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.
I think your 'vision' is very disturbing. I think you are pulling the forum's leg.

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Police jobs "created" do not in actuality produce wealth. This would be a statist jobs program for American citizens - hiring them to run concentration camps for indigenous people.

These migrants are indigenous nomads, people! Not "foreign hispanics"!

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
In a tongue-in-cheek call for immigration reform, farm workers are teaming up with comedian Stephen Colbert to challenge unemployed Americans: Come on, take our jobs...

California's agriculture industry launched a similar campaign in 1998, hoping to recruit welfare recipients and unemployed workers to work on farms, he said. Three people showed up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37906555/ns/business-us_business/
Nothing pisses me off more than the notion that they are 11 million "farm workers". The ENTIRE construction industry is shot because of illegals.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
Nothing pisses me off more than the notion that they are 11 million "farm workers". The ENTIRE construction industry is shot because of illegals.
So you're ok with migrant labor on California farms then?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Police jobs "created" do not in actuality produce wealth. This would be a statist jobs program for American citizens - hiring them to run concentration camps for indigenous people.

These migrants are indigenous nomads people! Not "foreign hispanics"!
If you had more cops,more C.O.'s, more construction workers building prisons their would be more people with more money to buy things, Hence stimulating the economy and creating wealth.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
So you're ok with migrant labor on California farms then?
hell no. Unless, they were legal.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
If you had more cops,more C.O.'s, more construction workers building prisons their would be more people with more money to buy things, Hence stimulating the economy and creating wealth.
Via statist jobs programs. Right? It would be a liberal style stimulus bill for the purpose of locking up "American Indians" in concentration camps.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
hell no. Unless, they were legal.
So how do you answer Colbert's challenge?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
So how do you answer Colbert's challenge?
how do you answer the notion they are not remotley close to all being farm workers "doing jobs americans wont do"

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
It would create A LOT more JOBS and stimulate the economy. Roughly 11 million jobs would be freed up and Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers. Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.
tell me, do you have an infinite number of prisons in your country that would be able to detain all those illegals?

Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers.
and who pays them?
oh yes, the taxpayer.

Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.
you seem to have forgotten the costs involved with making new facilities.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
tell me, do you have an infinite number of prisons in your country that would be able to detain all those illegals?

[b]Then who knows how many jobs created for cops and correctional officers.

and who pays them?
oh yes, the taxpayer.

Not to mention all the work that would be created making new facilities to hold them before permanent deportation.
you seem to have forgotten the costs involved with making new facilities.[/b]
Its an investment.You gotta spend money to make money right? Plus,it would really enlarge the government. Thats always a good thing.