@no1marauder saidWe once had a debate over deaths of any cause pre-pandemic compared to post covid pandemic. You were in denial because you said the numbers were not accurate because they would change due to updated figures.
The US government has been publishing yearly mortality figures for decades; if you want to believe they all of a sudden decided to bump the figure by half a million just so Bill Gates could implant tracking devices in all Americans, be my guest.
Just don't expect rational people to "debate" such lunacy.
I suggest we revisit those updated numbers now that you cannot deny them. Agreed?
@no1marauder saidSelling gene vaccines is the only motive needed for inflating covid deaths. Your feeble attempt to digress away from clear incentives is pathetic. You know just as well as I do that our government lies to us about covid and vaccines on a regular basis. The only difference is that you think the lies are noble instead of nefarious so you condone them and in some cases even shamelessly support those lies.
The US government has been publishing yearly mortality figures for decades; if you want to believe they all of a sudden decided to bump the figure by half a million just so Bill Gates could implant tracking devices in all Americans, be my guest.
Just don't expect rational people to "debate" such lunacy.
People that die within 2 weeks after vaccination are counted as unvaccinated deaths by the CDC. 80% of vaccine caused deaths happen within 2 weeks. That means only 20% of vaccine caused deaths are counted by the CDC.
How is that not corrupted data by the US government?
@metal-brain saidGene vaccines? You won't even accept the reality that birds aren't real.
Selling gene vaccines is the only motive needed for inflating covid deaths. Your feeble attempt to digress away from clear incentives is pathetic. You know just as well as I do that our government lies to us about covid and vaccines on a regular basis. The only difference is that you think the lies are noble instead of nefarious so you condone them and in some cases even ...[text shortened]... accine caused deaths are counted by the CDC.
How is that not corrupted data by the US government?
@wildgrass saidWhat is your source of information?
I thought Florida was going to skip this one because they ignored public health advice and killed a bunch of olds this summer. Seasonality and such.
Oh, wait. Florida? They're still spiking.
Florida is refusing to release the numbers on breakthrough cases.
Funny how so many are vaccinated and how so many vaccinated are getting sick. What do you know, nature 5akes it course even when people resist.
All of this government policy is simply making the covid season last longer.
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@Eladar
You cannot admit those folks fully vaxxed and get sick anyway DIDN'T DIE. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF VAXXING.
BTW, it might even be better to take D3 AND get the three shots.
But you thinking folks should ONLY take D3 and covid is history, THAT is a COMPLETE lie because you could care less about deaths of covid since you HATE the US anyway.
@sonhouse saidSTOP LYING!
@Eladar
You cannot admit those folks fully vaxxed and get sick anyway DIDN'T DIE. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF VAXXING.
BTW, it might even be better to take D3 AND get the three shots.
But you thinking folks should ONLY take D3 and covid is history, THAT is a COMPLETE lie because you could care less about deaths of covid since you HATE the US anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecdxXOUdi58
Fully vaxxed people get sick from covid and DIE.
They are called breakthrough cases/infections and the CDC counts breakthrough deaths. Look it up on the CDC website so you know not to spread more misinformation.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/95591
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@metal-brain saidOh no, not rumble again.
"If anything, the evidence indicates that deaths from COVID were significantly undercounted."
Stop repeating propaganda. I created a whole thread about that and you proved nothing on it.
https://rumble.com/vqm3r6-are-covid-death-rates-wildly-inflated.html
FAKE NEWS
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rumble/
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@metal-brain saidThis guy is a few fries short
Selling gene vaccines is the only motive needed for inflating covid deaths. Your feeble attempt to digress away from clear incentives is pathetic. You know just as well as I do that our government lies to us about covid and vaccines on a regular basis. The only difference is that you think the lies are noble instead of nefarious so you condone them and in some cases even ...[text shortened]... accine caused deaths are counted by the CDC.
How is that not corrupted data by the US government?
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A glimpse into our near future:
https://www.cityam.com/[WORD TOO LONG]/
‘Other countries can expect same decline’
The Covid expert who has been leading the country’s pandemic response, Salim Abdool Karim – South Afrcia’s most important infectious-diseases scientist – said the peak of the Omicron wave has passed and he is convinced “every other country, or almost every other, will follow the same trajectory.”
“If previous variants caused waves shaped like Kilimanjaro, omicron’s is more like we were scaling the North Face of Everest,” Abdool Karim told The Washington Post, referring to the near-vertical increase in infections that South Africa recorded in the first weeks of December.
Also, the widely-respected and well-known chairwoman of the South African Medical Association, Dr. Angelique Coetzee, told CNN’s New Day program oSouth Africa was “over the curve” and said numbers are “much lower.”
There are currently no restrictions in South Africa. Apart from a midnight-5am curfew, restaurants, shops, cinemas, bars and gyms are all open, both indoors as well as outdoors.
South Africa’s summer is currently in full swing, which means many people are taking time off, are travelling or are going out. The government said it has no intention to impose any new restrictions or additional rules.
This is in sharp contrast with a range of European nations, most notably the Netherlands, which have introduced fresh lockdowns or additional Covid restrictions as they face rapidly rising Covid infections due to the new Omicron variant.
Yup
Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if the decline in the US and Europe is a bit slower and the wave a bit more widespread as it is, you know, winter here.
Still, the nature of the beast is what it is. And fortunately, this beast appears pretty toothless.