@kmax87 saidthis LEAK was timed to deflect from the release of the documentary (20 MULES)
Just a question, for a friend, how often does a majority opinion become Law? And a supplementary question, we have 5 months till November. Will the base be just as riled as they are now and will that translate into greater Democrat control of Congress?
laying out how dems used drop boxes to steal an election.
Abortion is not the point for democrats, they are trying to save their own skin here.
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@sh76 saidWell he's been going on and on about Trumpism's supposed great political appeal (which he absurdly blames on progressives), so I thought he'd take the bet without a second thought.
To be fair, you should offer him odds. Trump against the field is not a fair bet.
On Predictit, Trump winning the 2024 election is trading at 30 cents, which I think is too high. But for a fair bet, he should get at least 2:1 odds.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election
But sure I'd give 2:1; I'll put up $50 to $25.
@mott-the-hoople saidHow embarrassing it must be for you to be in such thrall to a con man.
this LEAK was timed to deflect from the release of the documentary (20 MULES)
laying out how dems used drop boxes to steal an election.
Abortion is not the point for democrats, they are trying to save their own skin here.
@shavixmir saidI hope they try to roll back voting rights for all women.
Someone already said it: the Handmaid’s tale is supposed to be fiction.
The US, already a religious nut-job of a society, is about to kick itself backwards 50 years in history.
Pro-gun, racist, anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, religious… God damn… it sounds like fukking paradise!
None of them will ever be elected again.
@averagejoe1 saidYour question makes no sense to me, because I still think all college tuition should be free to US citizens.
My nephew is in Trade School. He borrowed his tuition. This tuition is not included in Biden's payment-of-tuition plan. How in the world do you fellers figure all this out so that it is faaaaaaaiir to everyone.
And what is everyone's stance on the high school grad who will borrow his tuition after this present program pays of the tuition loans of today's college g ...[text shortened]... rave on about Trump in every thread, so I felt like it was OK to bring this issue up in this thread.
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@mott-the-hoople saidhttps://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/04/faulty-premise-2000-mules-trailer-about-voting-mai/
this LEAK was timed to deflect from the release of the documentary (20 MULES)
laying out how dems used drop boxes to steal an election.
Abortion is not the point for democrats, they are trying to save their own skin here.
The faulty premise of the ‘2,000 mules’ trailer about voting by mail in the 2020 election
From this article:
"Dinesh D’Souza’s poor record with the truth
"D’Souza is a far-right commentator, author and documentary filmmaker whose provocation and incendiary rhetoric traces back to his time at Dartmouth College. There, a conservative publication under his leadership published an interview with a former Ku Klux Klan member and publicly outed members of the college’s Gay Student Alliance.
"D’Souza worked briefly on domestic policy issues in former President Ronald Reagan’s White House and for conservative think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute. He spent two years as president of King’s College, a small Christian school in New York, before resigning amid reports that he was seen at a hotel with a woman who was not his wife.
"In 2014, D’Souza pleaded guilty to a felony campaign finance violation after he used straw donors to donate in excess of the personal limit to a friend who was running for a U.S. Senate seat in New York. Trump pardoned D’Souza in 2018, just months after D’Souza publicly mocked survivors of the mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida.
"D’Souza’s numerous books and films have stirred controversy around topics such as race; one 1995 book said people born into slavery were treated "pretty well."
"D’Souza once said he "never advanced a conspiracy theory in my life," but he has promoted several: questioning President Barack Obama’s birthplace; suggesting that billionaire philanthropist George Soros collaborated with the Nazis and bankrolls antifa; and tweeting that the 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, might have been staged.
"D’Souza repeatedly claimed that the 2020 election was stolen in the days and months after Election Day. Following the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, D’Souza defended the rioters with false claims that they were "political protesters" who had been unarmed, unfairly attacked by police and wrongly labeled as insurrectionists. "This was a bunch of rowdy people walking through a hallway," he said on Fox News less than two months after the attack.
"D’Souza did not respond to our questions for this article."
Even Politfact notes that this film is a joke.
"We asked True the Vote if it had turned over information to prosecutors and, if so, in which jurisdictions. In response, the group said it will release information in the coming weeks. State election officials in Michigan and Wisconsin were not aware of any such prosecutorial investigations by state agencies based on True the Vote’s allegations. A spokesperson for the Philadelphia district attorney said such claims were not referred to local law enforcement for investigation.
"The actual evidence hasn’t been made public so it's hard to evaluate the claims when the people making the allegations won’t share the information that is the basis for their claims," said McDonald.
"More than a year after the presidential election, the evidence has only grown that there was a secure election.
"The Associated Press found in December 2021 fewer than 475 potential voter fraud cases in six battleground states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
"Have there been isolated incidents of fraud? Yes," McDonald said. That’s true in any election in which tens of millions of people cast ballots. "But is there any evidence of some sort of mass fraudulent voting of any sort? No."
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@earl-of-trumps saidWell here we go again.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473
Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.
This will be another case of
the haves, and the have nots.
Well to do women will always find
a way to terminate an unwanted
pregnancy........
a bit tougher for those without the resources.
.........Years from now, when The USA is ALL BLUE
(poor folks tend to vote Dem), you and I,
will both applaud this Roe v Wade nullification.
@no1marauder
I asked this elsewhere, 'cause this thread seemed to get bogged down on other stuff, so answer wherever you wish. What about the 9th Amendment? (I've been coming across a lot of people claiming that since abortion -- or privacy, for that matter -- is not an enumerated right, that it is not a "Constitutional right." It seems to me (as a lay schlock) that the 9th amendment kaiboshes that notion.)
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@suzianne saidas usual the lib scum attacks the messenger...Im going to report you to the newly created minister of truth!
https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/04/faulty-premise-2000-mules-trailer-about-voting-mai/
The faulty premise of the ‘2,000 mules’ trailer about voting by mail in the 2020 election
From this article:
"Dinesh D’Souza’s poor record with the truth
"D’Souza is a far-right commentator, author and documentary filmmaker whose provocation and incendiary rh ...[text shortened]... le cast ballots. "But is there any evidence of some sort of mass fraudulent voting of any sort? No."
@mott-the-hoople saidFunny, you and Donald have no idea what truth is!
as usual the lib scum attacks the messenger...Im going to report you to the newly created minister of truth!
@no1marauder saidHope this will help ya'll
You keep stupidly arguing that Trump losing in the midterms was not a big deal but that IF the Republicans win in this year's midterms (something that hasn't happened yet) it will "prove" the overwhelming appeal of Trumpism!
Are you so much of a child that you don't see how internally inconsistent that argument is?
Change that D to a F.
Updated on February 04, 2020
Midterm elections are not friendly to the president's political party. Modern midterm elections have resulted in an average loss of 30 seats in the House of Representatives and Senate by the political party whose president occupies the White House
https://www.thoughtco.com/historical-midterm-election-results-4087704
@no1marauder saidHoly shoosta, that's a sucker's bet lol. Anything can happen by then. I don't think Trump will be healthy enough to run, myself. And then can he even win the primary? And if all of that goes right, can he get reelected???
I wagered on the 2012 and 2020 with other posters on this Forum with the proceeds going to the charity of the winner's (me) choice.
Since you seem to be soooooooooooooo certain that Trump is an unstoppable juggernaut, I'll bet you $50 that he does not win the 2024 US Presidential election.
Put your money where your big mouth is.
Wow.
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@jimm619 saidI think the nullification may not be terminal for abortions at all. But I do wonder why interested parties have yet to start the process of passing a constitutional amendment. That would end all the drama, and yes I think it would pass.
Well here we go again.
This will be another case of
the haves, and the have nots.
Well to do women will always find
a way to terminate an unwanted
pregnancy........
a bit tougher for those without the resources.
.........Years from now, when The USA is ALL BLUE
(poor folks tend to vote Dem), you and I,
will both applaud this Roe v Wade nullification.
As far as haves/have-nots, Jimm, that will be the case forever, I don't care *what* form of government you have that promises to end it, the rich always rise to the top. Always. It's in our genetic code for cripes sake lol
PS: I should also point out, Jimm, that in the not-too-distant future, a perfect "morning after" pill will be developed and that too will take all the drama out of it.
@earl-of-trumps saidAhhh, but for everyone 'to be in the same place' at the end, (Kamala Harris), Suzy and everyone think that the govt needs to make them all equal at the beginning. I wish you libs would let that sink into your little heads. It will always be unequal. I make donuts, you sell diamonds in a diamond shop. Why Suzy, that just ain't right.
I think the nullification may not be terminal for abortions at all. But I do wonder why interested parties have yet to start the process of passing a constitutional amendment. That would end all the drama, and yes I think it would pass.
As far as haves/have-nots, Jimm, that will be the case forever, I don't care *what* form of government you have that promises to end it, the rich always rise to the top. Always. It's in our genetic code for cripes sake lol
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@earl-of-trumps saidI'm perfectly aware of the history. But history is the past and anything can happen.
Hope this will help ya'll
Updated on February 04, 2020
Midterm elections are not friendly to the president's political party. Modern midterm elections have resulted in an average loss of 30 seats in the House of Representatives and Senate by the political party whose president occupies the White House
https://www.thoughtco.com/historical-midterm-election-results-4087704
Both Bill Clinton's party in 1998 and GW's party in 2002 increased their seats in the House (FDR in 1934 did too). And the Senate class in 2022 is favorable to the Dems with 21 Republican and only 14 Democratic seats up for election.
There's six months until the election and the Republican lead in the generic polls is pretty small given Biden's low rating: Real Clear Politics has it only at 3.8%. There's plenty of time to turn that around esp. after the full impact of the overruling of Roe and the swatch of restrictive trigger laws are put into place.