@kevcvs57 saidno state has laws that would prevent an abortion in those cases
A rape victim chooses to get pregnant?
A woman whose contraception method fails choose to get pregnant?
A child who gets pregnant because scum like you will not let her get the relevant education chooses to get pregnant.
A woman who does exactly what guys do by getting 💩 faced and making a bad choice chooses to get pregnant and ruin her life plan?
No joe your a right wing misogynistic halfwit
@no1marauder said“Actually I didn't but don't let facts get in your way. ”
Actually I didn't but don't let facts get in your way.
A 4.5% loss for an incumbent President was petty bad considering one hadn't lost in 36 years. Moreover, Congressional Republicans did better than Trump, your rather stupid claim that the party is purely identified with the Orange Man notwithstanding.
https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-house-vote-tracker
htt ...[text shortened]... races.
What all this has to do with the actual subject of this thread is rather difficult to say.
Actually you did, but a lie can get you out of it, right?
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@vivify saidThat's simply not true; at times I used the 538 probabilities but even those were more favorable for Trump than virtually any other political website.
Yes, you did predict a Hillary win over and over, mocking anyone who disagreed with you; one of those people was me.
If the GOP wins in November, as they're heavily favored to do, it will be with candidates who all sought out Trump's endorsement. Trump is so important to winning in the GOP, that even former Trump critics like JD Vance are kissing his feet to win his endo ...[text shortened]... vember in a landslide.
Yet Trumpism is "thumped". Tell me more about your "political science".
Maybe you are confusing 2020 with 2016 when I did bet money on this Forum that Trump would lose as he did.
You continue to be laughable; sure a Trump endorsement seems to help in the GOP primaries but what has it done lately in "real" elections? Relying on polls so far in advance is rather absurd esp. as the subject of this thread (which you have now pretty much ignored since page 1) may very well be a game changer.
Yes, Trumpism got thumped in 2018 and 2020. Look it up; Republicans have 32 less House seats, 2 less Senate seats and there's a Democratic President who beat an incumbent President (the first loss for an incumbent since 1980).
Back in my old days as Poly Sci major an analysis which keeps insisting that the loser of an election is now a political steamroller would have gotten a D at best.
EDIT: Come to think of it, if it wasn't for Trump's repeated bleatings that the election results in November 2020 were "rigged", the two Democratic candidates might not have won the Georgia Senate runoffs. At least that's what Mitch and other Republicans thought. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/mcconnell-blames-trump-georgia-455657
@mott-the-hoople saidArkansas has a "trigger law" that has no exceptions but for " to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency." https://advance.lexis.com/documentpage/[WORD TOO LONG]
no state has laws that would prevent an abortion in those cases
As does Kentucky. https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/recorddocuments/bill/19RS/hb148/bill.pdf
As does Louisiana: https://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=97020
Same for Missouri, North and South Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/us/state-abortion-trigger-laws-roe-v-wade-overturned/index.html
@vivify saidIs someone who said in June 2016 "I would've voted for Ron Paul over Obama, and I'd pick Kasich over Hillary." really in a position to make this argument? https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/the-trump-phenomenon.169014/page-3
It seems they are leaving the decision up to the states. Texas and Florida will be able outright to ban abortion.
Every liberal who patted themselves on the back for being too good to vote for Hillary are now seeing the results of their inaction.
Kasich's anti-abortion record: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/john-kasich-abortion-2016-campaign-218846
Ron Paul on abortion: ". I disagree with the nationalization of the issue and reject the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion in all 50 states. Legislation that I have proposed would limit fe4deral court jurisdiction of abortion, and allow state prohibition of abortion on demand as well as in all trimesters."
https://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm
@averagejoe1 saidI'm trying to jump off the Trump railroad .....................................................
de'javu with this treasure trove of posts. Suprising, the number of Trump references. whew
Trump Even No1 is traveling with it........
zzzzzzzzz
To me, he's old news.
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@no1marauder saidA president's party retaining control of the House is such a rare event, it's only happened about 3 times in the last 80 years. So you have no point there. Your repeated use of the House as a point highlights your ignorance of midterm history. So much for your "political science".
Yes, Trumpism got thumped in 2018 and 2020. Look it up; Republicans have 32 less House seats, 2 less Senate seats and there's a Democratic President who beat an incumbent President (the first loss for an incumbent since 1980).
Trump is still the face of the Republican party; the whole world knows Trump is running again in 2024 and is the number one choice to do so; yet Republicans are set to dominate in November. Trump is not gone from the Republican party, he IS the Republican party. This fact is so indisputable that it's quite amusing to see you flail around trying to deny it.
Trumpism fuels the Republican party and they are on pace to dominate the midterms; the same Trumpism holier-than-thou libs like you helped happen.
@no1marauder saidThank you. Maybe you can pull it off, I have tried and I have failed...
I'm trying to jump off the Trump railroad .....................................................
To me, he's old news.
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@vivify saidGee, what kind of judges would have John Kasich nominated?
A president's party retaining control of the House is such a rare event, it's only happened about 3 times in the last 80 years. So you have no point there. Your repeated use of the House as a point highlights your ignorance of midterm history. So much for your "political science".
Trump is still the face of the Republican party; the whole world knows Trump is running aga ...[text shortened]... re on pace to dominate the midterms; the same Trumpism holier-than-thou libs like you helped happen.
At least I've never said I would vote for politicians who blatantly and publicly stated they wanted Roe v. Wade overturned.
That makes one of us.
We'll see what happens in November. In the 2018 House elections " The Democrats gained a net total of 41 seats from the total number of seats they had won in the 2016 elections. This was their largest gain of House seats in an election since the 1974 elections, when the Democrats gained 49 House seats.[8][9][10][11] Democrats won the popular vote by more than 9.7 million votes or 8.6%,[12] the largest midterm margin for any party[13] and the largest margin on record for a minority party.[14]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
That sounds like a historic level of repudiation (1974's massacre was 3 months after Nixon resigned in disgrace) of what you consider a political steamroller.
@vivify saidIt's OK, Sonhouse. There is a lot more yet to be uncovered, thrashed out, sorted.......but with your help, we have to start somewhere. Could you maybe put all of your observations, treatises together and bookmark them into one volume.
A president's party retaining control of the House is such a rare event, it's only happened about 3 times in the last 80 years. So you have no point there. Your repeated use of the House as a point highlights your ignorance of midterm history. So much for your "political science".
Trump is still the face of the Republican party; the whole world knows Trump is running aga ...[text shortened]... re on pace to dominate the midterms; the same Trumpism holier-than-thou libs like you helped happen.
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@no1marauder saidYou're still using the House as a talking point? Lmao. Okay, fine:
Gee, what kind of judges would have John Kasich nominated?
At least I've never said I would vote for politicians who blatantly and publicly stated they wanted Roe v. Wade overturned.
That makes one of us.
We'll see what happens in November. In the 2018 House elections " The Democrats gained a net total of 41 seats from the total number of seats they had won in t ...[text shortened]... assacre was 3 months after Nixon resigned in disgrace) of what you consider a political steamroller.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-actually-did-way-better-than-obama-in-his-first-midterm-2018-11
Under Obama, Dems lost 63 House seats, which was a historic loss. Trump actually did better than Obama, so much so that Obama's "midterm elections in 2010 and 2014 were catastrophic compared to Trump's moderate losses.".
Despite Obama being more popular than Trump, he had worse midterm performances. I suppose that was "repudiation" of Obama, huh?
You look stupid here. Stop using the House as a point.
@sonhouse saidMaybe you are just wrong about everything and are just too stupid to know it.
@shavixmir
My feeling is Covid and other diseases have lowered the intelligence of the entire human race down so much they believe anything some assswipe Trump wannabe comes up with. How else can we explain this right wing swing around the entire planet, coinciding with the rise of Covid.
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@vivify saidObama then bounced back and won re-election.
You're still using the House as a talking point? Lmao. Okay, fine:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-actually-did-way-better-than-obama-in-his-first-midterm-2018-11
Under Obama, Dems lost 63 House seats, which was a historic loss. Trump actually did better than Obama, so much so that Obama's "midterm elections in 2010 and 2014 were catastrophic compared to Trump's ...[text shortened]... ose that was "repudiation" of Obama, huh?
You look stupid here. Stop using the House as a point.
Trump lost fairly badly.
So that's two elections in a row "Trumpism" has been repudiated. The one election it did manage to win, he lost the popular vote by about 3 million.
Some political steamroller ya got there.
Calling me "stupid" isn't going to work with anyone but others on this board who voiced a preference for candidates who called for Roe's overruling like you did.