@sh76 saidNot to throw a fly in your ointment, but it looks like both the Georgia races are going to runoffs after really close first rounds. If the Dems win both there'd be a 50-50 split.
I believe, is what happened. A narrow Biden win and GOP control of the Senate.
Moreover, my guess is that this is what Biden secretly hoped for as well.
If he'd swept into power on a Blue Wave, he'd have been enormously pressured to go for single payer healthcare, ban fracking, pack the Court, heavily jack up income taxes, etc.
Now, he can govern as a centrist. He can f ...[text shortened]... of the American people. This idea was marked in Biden's statesman-like address yesterday afternoon.
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@cheesemaster saidPeople who think only of themselves are the ones who tend to think that a national health care system is nothing but an unfair tax burden on the healthy. There are two additional factors to be considered, however.
That means 5% tax going to 15% tax.
I know...I'm Canadian.
Our hospital waiting rooms are filled with old people who just want some attention π
People like me who never go to the hospital get taxed.
41 years and counting!
I want my money back!
First, even those who lead healthy lives might get hit by bus and need emergency surgery.
Second, consider all the man-hours lost due to your neighbors being sick or injured, if there is no national health care system, and all the services, upon which you too depend, which do not run at full capacity if someone gets sick or injured. Schools, post offices, road maintenance, fire depts., inspections of food quality, control of hygiene in super markets and restaurants, sewerage, bridge inspectors, the list of public services is endless, and if they don't have fully-manned positions because there's no national health care to treat people who get ill or injured, then you too suffer. You want your money back? Think of it as an investment in a functional society.
If the elderly just need companionship or attention, they can go to church for that.
@cheesemaster saidHave you ever been to Romania?
Romania and its people can't preach to the world how a country or its people should be π
Romania is one of the poorest and corrupt countries in Europe.
So excuse us Zahlady if we don't take your opinion seriously.
@zahlanzi saidDo you not think that Americans want Freedom , Liberty, Independence, and to be self-reliant? What your party of leftists is promoting cannot exist side - by- side with freedom and liberty and self-reliance, an independence. Do you get my drift, zahlanzii? I had not figured you to have a parasitic nature.
"rather than on cramming a leftist agenda down the throats of the American people"
You mean the things most americans want?
Unless I misread, you are saying americans want want AOC wants us to have?
@spruce112358 saidUnfortunately yes.
Have you ever been to Romania?
Secret mission that I cannot disclose.
@cheesemaster saidNo the Donald was, any day, going to introduce his health care plan which would cost virtually nothing, have extremely low premiums yet still provide universal coverage to everyone including those with pre-existing conditions.
@moonbus
So I gotta pay massive tax because I might get hit by a bus?
I hit buses....they don't hit me. π
But because of the damn voters we're never going to see it!
@kevcvs57 saidI see no logic where there is none. You have said nothing to counter my claim. The Senate has little to do with my claim. You are digressing.
Well the simple fact that the Dems are not getting the senate will mean that they will have to negotiate with the senate which means any laws or programmes that survive that process will be centrist by definition.
My problem is that Biden is, and always has been, a centrist and would have dulled any left edge initiatives anyway.
The fact that you fail to see the logic or illogic of a statement, claim or argument has been evident for a while now.
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@no1marauder saidNope.
No the Donald was, any day, going to introduce his health care plan which would cost virtually nothing, have extremely low premiums yet still provide universal coverage to everyone including those with pre-existing conditions.
But because of the damn voters we're never going to see it!
Now you get Bidens massive tax increase so you pay for old people filling hospital waiting rooms π
Reep what you sow No1
@cheesemaster saidBetter that than having them slowly, wretchedly dying in tents on the sidewalk.
Nope.
Now you get Bidens massive tax increase so you pay for old people filling hospital waiting rooms π
@athousandyoung saidSays who?
Better that than having them slowly, wretchedly dying in tents on the sidewalk.
You?
I don't want to pay for the weak.
@cheesemaster saidYou do know that "old people" already get universal health care in the US, don't you?
Nope.
Now you get Bidens massive tax increase so you pay for old people filling hospital waiting rooms π
Reep what you sow No1
@cheesemaster saidYou have no money and will have to pay nothing.
Says who?
You?
I don't want to pay for the weak.
@no1marauder saidDamn...
You do know that "old people" already get universal health care in the US, don't you?
Live and learn I guess π
@athousandyoung saidTrue.
You have no money and will have to pay nothing.
But...
But...π€
I got nuthin π