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@kmax87 said
Yup and the population of Iran is 90 million. So yeah 50 odd leaders should do the trick!
Yup the people of Iran should be organising a Democratic Republic within days!
The reason for your negativity is obvious. On the positive side, the entire top brass is dead, and as more pop their evil heads up, they will be taken out. Democracy will take some time, and you really are ignorant to suggest days.

The world is turning against Islam. Imagine a country like Iran, the centre and main sponsor of terrorism, 90% of the people now hate Islam. Most Muslims are coming to their senses, except for your type.


@Rajk999 said
US Constitution Art 1 Sec 8 .. War Powers Resolution (1973): This law requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing troops to hostilities and limits the engagement to 60 days without a formal declaration or authorization from Congress.

He has to do it today. The reason for this 48 delay in committing troops, and actually informing Congress is t ...[text shortened]... If COngress knows about the intended war, then enemies of the US will be alerted by these traitors.
https://psc.uncg.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/War-Powers-Act.pdf

In Section 2(c) it specifically states the President can only send military forces into action if and only if there is A) A declaration of war; B) Statutory authorization or C) An attack on the US or its armed forces.

None of those occurred, so the Act isn't relevant.


@Rajk999 said
The reason for your negativity is obvious. On the positive side, the entire top brass is dead, and as more pop their evil heads up, they will be taken out. Democracy will take some time, and you really are ignorant to suggest days.

The world is turning against Islam. Imagine a country like Iran, the centre and main sponsor of terrorism, 90% of the people now hate Islam. Most Muslims are coming to their senses, except for your type.
The problem with you is that you've assumed I am a Muslim not for a moment thinking that a patriot can be critical of what his nation or allies are doing in the name of Western Democracy. You have confused Nationalism with patriotic fervor. You say my country right or wrong, which sounds patriotic, bit is not. It's just jingoistic claptrap so that you can cheer on the deaths of those you dont like or understand because you have no appreciation for anyone else's life or culture. Learn some history. There's nothing new under the sun. Leaders like Trump do not solve problems, they simply perpetuate and entrench hatred which will always come back to bite you when you least expect it.


@kmax87 said
The problem with you is that you've assumed I am a Muslim not for a moment thinking that a patriot can be critical of what his nation or allies are doing in the name of Western Democracy. You have confused Nationalism with patriotic fervor. You say my country right or wrong, which sounds patriotic, bit is not. It's just jingoistic claptrap so that you can cheer on the deaths o ...[text shortened]... ply perpetuate and entrench hatred which will always come back to bite you when you least expect it.
He calls everyone a Muslim who doesn't support his call for a world wide holy war against Islam.


@no1marauder said
He calls everyone a Muslim who doesn't support his call for a world wide holy war against Islam.
I must be part of a very large club!

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@no1marauder said
The Framers weren't fools; they wouldn't have wasted their time taking away the war power from the Executive if the latter could simply circumvent it by not using certain words when he started a war.
Clarify please. You imply that declaring war and using military force are the same thing under the constitution?!?
I think that we have only declared War five or six time in history. There have been a lot of military theaters that no one seems to have complained about a lot more than five or six.

I guess that theaters is as good as word as any!


Check this out. Who knew. I'll be sorry, you will use this to send your argument into oblivion. No winners!!!

The last time the United States formally declared war, using specific terminology, on any nation was in 1942, when war was declared against Axis-aligned Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania, because President Franklin Roosevelt thought it was improper to engage in hostilities against a country without a formal declaration of war. Since then, every American president has used military force without a declaration of war.[3]

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@AverageJoe1 said
Clarify please. You imply that declaring war and using military force are the same thing under the constitution?!?
I think that we have only declared War five or six time in history. There have been a lot of military theaters that no one seems to have complained about a lot more than five or six.

I guess that theaters is as good as word as any!
I'd be curious to know of any military action in our history of the scope of this one where the President acted without Congressional authorization.

Of course, the Framers recognized that there might be times where military force would have to be used to repel an attack, but not an imaginary or hypothetical one in the indeterminate future.

I think they meant what they said and your idea that one man could at his whim bring upon the nation the horrors of war would have repelled them.


@AverageJoe1 said
Check this out. Who knew. I'll be sorry, you will use this to send your argument into oblivion. No winners!!!

The last time the United States formally declared war, using specific terminology, on any nation was in 1942, when war was declared against Axis-aligned Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania, because President Franklin Roosevelt thought it was improper to engage i ...[text shortened]... f war. Since then, every American president has used military force without a declaration of war.[3]
I'm uninterested that other Presidents also violated the Constitution; this is nothing more than a "whataboutism".

The major conflicts like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq all had Congressional approval (the first by virtue of the UN Charter).


@no1marauder said
I'm uninterested that other Presidents also violated the Constitution; this is nothing more than a "whataboutism".

The major conflicts like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq all had Congressional approval (the first by virtue of the UN Charter).
Who cares, marauder.for God sakes do you not see what is happening. This Marks the end of the hell that’s been going on since 911. It is like the Berlin wall coming down. It means freedom and independence throughout those countries that are affected. The absolutely only reason of this attack is to prevent the development of ballistic missiles. Everything else Trump hopes will fall into place but he is making no such plans as you people think regarding being an empire builder. Next, we will have sonhouse he wants to build a hotel there , so damn boring. The man wants to make a mark as actually bringing the world together in a global fashion, and causing China and Russia to stand down. You need to quit typing to me and start watching the news. I am watching FOX of course, and I cannot spot one lie in there….. you see they don’t have to. The truth is Wonderful.
I have never seen you type the words, independence or freedom on the forum I sort of think you do not want any such thing, I think you want unrest so that communism can still find a place.
Oh, you never answered my question, Will my daughter and her family be able to go to France for the Olympics for three weeks in 2030.? They will have the money they need, unless you have taken it away. So will they have to have permission to go to the Olympics??. well they still enjoy the freedom that they enjoy now.?


@no1marauder said
I'd be curious to know of any military action in our history of the scope of this one where the President acted without Congressional authorization.

Of course, the Framers recognized that there might be times where military force would have to be used to repel an attack, but not an imaginary or hypothetical one in the indeterminate future.

I think they meant what th ...[text shortened]... ea that one man could at his whim bring upon the nation the horrors of war would have repelled them.
Who cares what has happened in the past? Enough.

You must admit that your second paragraph is a bit flaky.

As to your one man scenario, I would think our country has adequate safeguard to keep any 1 man from running amuck.. However, we did seem to allow Biden to admit 12 million illegal people into our country. I would call that a president running amuck. We will prob never get back to the way we were.
These alien bastards have killed more of our citizens in the USA than our bombs in Iran , dropped to set other people free. An acceptable trade off.


@no1marauder said
I'm uninterested that other Presidents also violated the Constitution; this is nothing more than a "whataboutism".

The major conflicts like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq all had Congressional approval (the first by virtue of the UN Charter).
We agree I am uninterested in any of this past history that you keep writing about or what other people have said and done. The facts today are quite different than the facts of yesterday. All presidents have to adapt and be flexible to deal with the problem at hand. This is why I think all of your typing about the past and that of Sunhouse and everybody else is always a waste of time.
Boring irrelevant. And you are right, there is never been another president like Donald Trump. You are aware that he is the most powerful man on earth and demands tremendous respect, and thank God is making all of the right decisions to rid us of the Khamanis and Maduro of the world.


Kamala Khamenie. Creepy. Both communist or worse.


@AverageJoe1 said
The facts today are quite different than the facts of yesterday.
Said every great commander never.


@AverageJoe1 said
Kamala Khamenie. Creepy. Both communist or worse.
Eminem you are not.