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@AverageJoe1 said
Looks like I hit right on another thread, you are all getting a bit off the wall.

It is 5Eastern, Trump just started speaking in Michigan. I implore you open-minded fools to listen for What He IS Going To Do. Kamala does not do that.
Specifics. I Will Stop Aliens From Coming IN!! She doesn't say that. A president can do this with the stroke of a pen, no congress ...[text shortened]... s a Federal Worker!!! She will be paying them.
Jesus. You were gullible and didn't even know it.
Not only do you fervently believe Donnie's lies, but you help spread them around yourself!

Could you just not, uhh, do that?


@AverageJoe1 said
Looks like I hit right on another thread, you are all getting a bit off the wall.

It is 5Eastern, Trump just started speaking in Michigan. I implore you open-minded fools to listen for What He IS Going To Do. Kamala does not do that.
Specifics. I Will Stop Aliens From Coming IN!! She doesn't say that. A president can do this with the stroke of a pen, no congress ...[text shortened]... s a Federal Worker!!! She will be paying them.
Jesus. You were gullible and didn't even know it.
The shattering irony is completely lost on you.

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@Suzianne
He would have to look up the word irony and won't understand it even then. Now he claims he TAUGHT business law for 2 years and says I am full of poop when I say tariffs are an up front sales tax paid by US and not any foreign company,
So I asked, Teacher, tell me what a tariff really is.


@AverageJoe1 said
Looks like I hit right on another thread, you are all getting a bit off the wall.

It is 5Eastern, Trump just started speaking in Michigan. I implore you open-minded fools to listen for What He IS Going To Do. Kamala does not do that.
Specifics. I Will Stop Aliens From Coming IN!! She doesn't say that. A president can do this with the stroke of a pen, no congress ...[text shortened]... s a Federal Worker!!! She will be paying them.
Jesus. You were gullible and didn't even know it.
No, the President can't "shut down the border" and when Trump tried to end asylum claims between ports of entry in violation of explicit statutory language, the courts slapped him down:

Did Trump try to "shut down" asylum claims at the border?
Yes, and his efforts were struck down in federal court.

Trump tried to single-handedly suspend asylum in between ports of entry along the southern border through a proclamation in 2018, using a law House Speaker Mike Johnson and other Republicans have urged Mr. Biden to invoke.

While the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use this law — known as Section 212(f) — to enact restrictions and bans on legal immigration and travel, such as the infamous "travel bans," federal courts prevented the government from citing this authority to suspend asylum law. Trump's 2018 rule was ultimately declared unlawful.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-border-authority/

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East Bay Sanctuary Covenant v. Donald Trump (18-17274) https://www.bing.com/search?q=East+Bay+Sanctuary+Covenant+v.[WORD TOO LONG]

"The Refugee Act of 1980 directed the Attorney General to accept asylum applications from any alien “physically present in the United States or at a land border or port of entry, irrespective of such alien’s status.”Id.§ 1158(a) (1980). "

"In accordance with the Convention and Protocol, Congress required the Government to accept asylum applications from aliens, irrespective of whether or not they arrived lawfully through a port of entry."


@sonhouse said
@Suzianne
He would have to look up the word irony and won't understand it even then. Now he claims he TAUGHT business law for 2 years and says I am full of poop when I say tariffs are an up front sales tax paid by US and not any foreign company,
So I asked, Teacher, tell me what a tariff really is.
It is a tool in this case.


@no1marauder said
No, the President can't "shut down the border" and when Trump tried to end asylum claims between ports of entry in violation of explicit statutory language, the courts slapped him down:

Did Trump try to "shut down" asylum claims at the border?
Yes, and his efforts were struck down in federal court.

Trump tried to single-handedly suspend asylum in between ports of e ...[text shortened]... as ultimately declared unlawful.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-border-authority/
By shut down, let us stipulate that the new president puts the status at the border back to where it was before the present president signed an exec order to open the border. That should clear the air.
Yes, no need to totally close it. Just put Trump's border back to where it was. Is that good?


@AverageJoe1 said
By shut down, let us stipulate that the new president puts the status at the border back to where it was before the present president signed an exec order to open the border. That should clear the air.
Yes, no need to totally close it. Just put Trump's border back to where it was. Is that good?
That can't be done either. The only measure that seriously reduced border crossings was Title 42 and that was a health order only allowed during a national emergency like, say, a pandemic. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/title-42-ending-whats-next-explainer-cec/index.html


@no1marauder said
No, the President can't "shut down the border" and when Trump tried to end asylum claims between ports of entry in violation of explicit statutory language, the courts slapped him down:

Did Trump try to "shut down" asylum claims at the border?
Yes, and his efforts were struck down in federal court.

Trump tried to single-handedly suspend asylum in between ports of e ...[text shortened]... as ultimately declared unlawful.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-border-authority/
So no1m, what you are saying is that the President cannot simply do "whatever he wants" particularly when it flies in the face of existing laws passed by Congress and/or Constitutional provisions?

Even when a lot of people shout - "Do it! Do it!" ?


@no1marauder said
That can't be done either. The only measure that seriously reduced border crossings was Title 42 and that was a health order only allowed during a national emergency like, say, a pandemic. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/title-42-ending-whats-next-explainer-cec/index.html
Ramble on, he can certainly reverse the 92 things Biden did, can he not?


@Suzianne said
Indeed.

I see zero benefit, especially to society, by going all in for Trump.
I meant it's a waste of time arguing with you.


@AverageJoe1 said
Ramble on, he can certainly reverse the 92 things Biden did, can he not?
I had hoped and dreamed Biden would reverse all of Trump's errors, but some were left to stand. Probably because he figured he'd be spending his entire four years fixing Trump's mistakes.


@AverageJoe1 said
Silly goose. The Paper -Jacketed passport of today will, like paper money, certainly be replaced by something. Here you say it will be facial recognition. No you are wrong, it will be something even fancier, but..,,follow me here….it will effectively BE a passport.
So, you can rewrite your post, but taking all of your posts together, you think all should be wide ope ...[text shortened]... Americans CITIZENS. We are not citizens of Canada. So, follow me here, they do not know who we are,
You don’t know who someone from Alaska or Maine is either.

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@DJJ said
I meant it's a waste of time arguing with you.
A waste of time for Kamala is to have a huge spotlight looking at thousands of fans and sayiing...."I pledge to you to find solutions to our problems'. That is what she seaid exactly, and the crowd was in an uproar!!!!
Donald on the other hand is saying I will drill for oil.
Sue, Do you see the difference?
Sue, I pledge to you that I will find a solution to ________________(filll in blank)

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@AverageJoe1
A tool in this case., That tells me NOTHING about what YOU think a tariff is, and who pays.

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