Two questions

@averagejoe1 said
My debate society is having a member-guest debate next month

If there is a debate society with AveJoe1 on the roster, they have to be way beyond desperate, at the end of their rope with no patience or energy to attract qualified members. Whew!

@averagejoe1 said
Good stuff, Suzianne. My debate society is having a member-guest debate next month, would you come as my guest? You will have them on the edge of their seats. But there is a restriction against using teleprompters, as does Biden at interviews, etc, I hope that will be acceptable to you.

You will probably find yourself questioned regarding self reliance, independen ...[text shortened]... might want to refrain from that. Oh, you have to be over 15 years old, hope that is not a problem.

A question from an observer with no American connections:
You appear to focus on self reliance, independence, liberty and freedom as the most important characteristics of Americans.
Why are these not in your list:
Initiative, responsibility, compassion, opportunity?

@kewpie said
A question from an observer with no American connections:
You appear to focus on self reliance, independence, liberty and freedom as the most important characteristics of Americans.
Why are these not in your list:
Initiative, responsibility, compassion, opportunity?

Good question.

The four he mentions are the easy ones. Every American I know already has them, they're a given. The four you mention are apparently the ones hard to come by.

@cheesemaster said
He wants to see if dead people voted.
Or out of state people....California... Voted in Nevada.

Etc etc.

Every vote should be checked for legitimacy.
Regardless of the party involved.

Trump supporters in states where Biden is catching up are chanting “stop the count”

Trump supporters in states where where Trump is catching up Biden are chanting “count the vote”

Seriously, it’s true.

Asholes.

@cheesemaster said
He wants to see if dead people voted.
Or out of state people....California... Voted in Nevada.

Etc etc.

Every vote should be checked for legitimacy.
Regardless of the party involved.

They should be checking every vote in the red states as well obviously.

@averagejoe1 said
Good stuff, Suzianne. My debate society is having a member-guest debate next month, would you come as my guest? You will have them on the edge of their seats. But there is a restriction against using teleprompters, as does Biden at interviews, etc, I hope that will be acceptable to you.

You will probably find yourself questioned regarding self reliance, independen ...[text shortened]... might want to refrain from that. Oh, you have to be over 15 years old, hope that is not a problem.

Is that the mass debating event you right wing freedom and democracy hating republicants are going to have outside Trumps prison by way of solidarity?

@divegeester said
Trump supporters in states where Biden is catching up are chanting “stop the count”

Trump supporters in states where where Trump is catching up Biden are chanting “count the vote”

Seriously, it’s true.

Asholes.

Yep, we had a crowd of Trumpers, in their little MAGA hats and everything, some with their long guns, outside the Maricopa County Elections Headquarters here in Phoenix, Arizona where staffers were burning the midnight oil counting the votes. They were, just as you say, shouting "Count the votes!", presumably meaning ALL the votes, even as they were inside doing exactly that. Some of the workers who were going home after their shift had to get deputies from the Maricopa County Sherriff's Office to escort them to their cars as they felt intimidated by the crowd.

@averagejoe1 said
Good stuff, Suzianne. My debate society is having a member-guest debate next month, would you come as my guest? You will have them on the edge of their seats. But there is a restriction against using teleprompters, as does Biden at interviews, etc, I hope that will be acceptable to you.

You will probably find yourself questioned regarding self reliance, independen ...[text shortened]... might want to refrain from that. Oh, you have to be over 15 years old, hope that is not a problem.

You're not part of any society, you liar. Nobody likes you

@zahlanzi said
You're not part of any society, you liar. Nobody likes you

So that’s apparently why Sonhouse and Shav declined to be Godfathers to my baby twins. Who else is there to ask.......They’d ‘a been perfect.

@kewpie said
A question from an observer with no American connections:
You appear to focus on self reliance, independence, liberty and freedom as the most important characteristics of Americans.
Why are these not in your list:
Initiative, responsibility, compassion, opportunity?

Easy. Because initiative responsibility compassion and opportunity, which I actually write about all the time, are not the issue of this thread. I always think I’m the only one that recognizes an issue in the forum. The reason I chose those four words, by the way, is simply because those are the four issues that are at risk in our country with the advent of leftist principles. I wrote the thread to shine light on these facts, which evidence the erosion which will happen if we allow the liberal left to take away our freedoms. Certainly you know that opening the borders takes away our freedom, and more government control takes away our freedom, if you would like to look up the definitions of freedom, and liberty. I could ramble on, but I think that answers the question of why I highlighted those four things. Average Joe writes about opportunity, responsibility, compassion and initiative all the time. You must be a late comer. 😋 Look back at some of the threads which promote one neighbor paying for the abortion of another neighbors child, for example....such as that. This of course takes away the freedom of the man who is hit up for this abortion. Pure logic. Should that neighbor also reimburse the girl’s father for losses he incurred in the stock market? Two bad decisions? Is there a difference? Pure logic.

@suzianne said
Good question.

The four he mentions are the easy ones. Every American I know already has them, they're a given. The four you mention are apparently the ones hard to come by.

A primer for Suzianne:
Liberals generally believe in governmental action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all.
That, It is the 'duty of the govt' to reduce community issues, and to guarantee that no one is in need.

Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, LIMITED government, free markets, individual liberty, Traditional American Values, and a strong national defense. They believe the purpose of government is otherwise to provide people the Freedom necessary to pursue their Own goals. The people are empowered to solve their problems, not the government. All of this paragraph includes Independence, freedom, liberty and opportunity. So, you see that the liberal doctrine cannot possibly include these concepts in their doctrine.

Liberals want more taxes, larger government. Conservatives are exactly the opposite. Your first sentence above says that the four i mention are 'a given'. Suzianne, th the liberals do not convert them a 'given' at all. There can be no liberty when the government is larger. Look it up. That thus takes away freedoms. Which reduces independence, which reduces opportunity.

You folks and your government would be best served if you reduce the size of government so that our children can grow and prosper, which they cannot possibly do when in a govt stranglehold. "To each according to their needs, from each according to their ability". Brrrrrrr. Yet, you think this is cool??

@averagejoe1 said
Good stuff, Suzianne. My debate society is having a member-guest debate next month, would you come as my guest? You will have them on the edge of their seats. But there is a restriction against using teleprompters, as does Biden at interviews, etc, I hope that will be acceptable to you.

You will probably find yourself questioned regarding self reliance, independen ...[text shortened]... might want to refrain from that. Oh, you have to be over 15 years old, hope that is not a problem.

4 edits for that?

@averagejoe1 said
Easy. Because initiative responsibility compassion and opportunity, which I actually write about all the time, are not the issue of this thread. I always think I’m the only one that recognizes an issue in the forum. The reason I chose those four words, by the way, is simply because those are the four issues that are at risk in our country with the advent of leftist princ ...[text shortened]... r for losses he incurred in the stock market? Two bad decisions? Is there a difference? Pure logic.

“ I always think I’m the only one that recognizes an issue in the forum.,”
😂😂😂
Well as long as your suffering from ‘Delusions of Grandeur’ Joe

Any votes not cast at an official voting location where precautions are taken to ensure the vote is fraud or under duress is suspect.

I am not sure why systems so easily used to cast fraudulent votes is acceptable.

@kevcvs57 said
“ I always think I’m the only one that recognizes an issue in the forum.,”
😂😂😂
Well as long as your suffering from ‘Delusions of Grandeur’ Joe

You miss the issue by this very post.