MB referenced this paper:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33772572/
PubMed is a thoroughly reputable collection of peer reviewed medical research papers.
Development of COVID-19 vaccines utilizing gene therapy technology
... Many companies are developing COVID-19 vaccine candidates using different technologies that are classified into four groups (intact target viruses, proteins, viral vectors and nucleic acids). For rapid development, RNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines have been urgently approved, and their injection has already started across the world.
Etc. That’s all correct. The gene therapy in question is the use of adenoviral vectors as in the J&J vaccine.
@athousandyoung saidYou posted earlier in this thread that adenoviruses do NOT alter DNA.
Apparently adenoviruses can modify DNA after all:
[quote]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy
Most of these approaches utilize adeno-associated viruses (AAVs) and lentiviruses for performing gene insertions...
Gene therapy using an adenovirus vector. In some cases, the adenovirus will insert the new gene into a cell. If the treatment is successful, the n ...[text shortened]... argument with respect to the J&J DNA vaccine with the viral vector.
But not the mRNA nonsense.
You are now contradicting yourself.
I never claimed adenoviruses can alter DNA. Not all gene therapy alters DNA. The assertion that it can is misinformation.
Why didn't you accept my bet? Lack of confidence?
@athousandyoung said" That’s all correct. The gene therapy in question is the use of adenoviral vectors as in the J&J vaccine."
MB referenced this paper:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33772572/
PubMed is a thoroughly reputable collection of peer reviewed medical research papers.
[quote] Development of COVID-19 vaccines utilizing gene therapy technology
... Many companies are developing COVID-19 vaccine candidates using different technologies that are classified into four groups ( ...[text shortened]... s all correct. The gene therapy in question is the use of adenoviral vectors as in the J&J vaccine.
Incorrect. mRNA treatment is considered gene therapy by the FDA. That is also in question.
Do you accept my bet or not? You complained that people would perceive me as an expert over this. If you win the bet I will create a thread saying you are right and I was wrong. Isn't that enough incentive?
@metal-brain saidDude, nobody considers you a bloody expert in anything.
" That’s all correct. The gene therapy in question is the use of adenoviral vectors as in the J&J vaccine."
Incorrect. mRNA treatment is considered gene therapy by the FDA. That is also in question.
Do you accept my bet or not? You complained that people would perceive me as an expert over this. If you win the bet I will create a thread saying you are right and I was wrong. Isn't that enough incentive?
Retard.
@metal-brain saidIf it does not alter the gene for therapeutic purposes then it is not a gene therapy is it?
You posted earlier in this thread that adenoviruses do NOT alter DNA.
You are now contradicting yourself.
I never claimed adenoviruses can alter DNA. Not all gene therapy alters DNA. The assertion that it can is misinformation.
Why didn't you accept my bet? Lack of confidence?
It does not matter who says it is, it patently is not.
Stop lying and stop being stupid.
@shavixmir saidI challenge you to the same bet.
Dude, nobody considers you a bloody expert in anything.
Retard.
Do you accept?
@kevcvs57 saidNo.
If it does not alter the gene for therapeutic purposes then it is not a gene therapy is it?
It does not matter who says it is, it patently is not.
Stop lying and stop being stupid.
It does not have to alter the gene for therapeutic purposes to be gene therapy. That is a myth.
No government health official will deny they are gene vaccines using gene therapy technology. Have you ever wondered why?
I challenge you to the same bet. Do you accept the bet?
@metal-brain saidIt’s not the myth, it’s the bloody definition.
No.
It does not have to alter the gene for therapeutic purposes to be gene therapy. That is a myth.
No government health official will deny they are gene vaccines using gene therapy technology. Have you ever wondered why?
I challenge you to the same bet. Do you accept the bet?
@shavixmir saidNope.
It’s not the myth, it’s the bloody definition.
No government official will say that because it is not true.
There is definitely some mass formation psychosis going on. People are willfully denying reality. I highly recommend reading the article from the link below.
From the link below:
"Importantly, as reported by David Martin, Ph.D.,21,22 "Moderna … describes its product not as a vaccine, but as 'gene therapy technology' in SEC filings. This is because neither Moderna nor Pfizer … make any claims about their products creating immunity or preventing transmission." Additionally, Moderna's SEC filings specifically state that "Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA," as well."
https://sambentleygraphics.weebly.com/blog/covid-19-vaccines-are-gene-therapy
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@metal-brain saidYou have already lost that bet, over and over and over (and over, and over, and oooveer...) again, but every single time you refuse to admit to it. That is why nobody accepts your bets: you do not debate honestly, and you will never accept you lost it.
Why didn't you accept my bet? Lack of confidence?
Face it, if you bet me that humans have six fingers on each hand, against my claim of five, you'd claim to have won that bet because some dodgy website or other states that the thumb counts double.
You are not a credible better.
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@metal-brain saidSo for the sake of an argument, its a gene therapy. So what of it?
There is definitely some mass formation psychosis going on. People are willfully denying reality. I highly recommend reading the article from the link below.
From the link below:
"Importantly, as reported by David Martin, Ph.D.,21,22 "Moderna … describes its product not as a vaccine, but as 'gene therapy technology' in SEC filings. This is because neither Moderna n ...[text shortened]... he FDA," as well."
https://sambentleygraphics.weebly.com/blog/covid-19-vaccines-are-gene-therapy
Here's a question.
Does this gene therapy alter my genes?
Yes, or No?
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@shallow-blue saidI have never failed to honor a bet.
You have already lost that bet, over and over and over (and over, and over, and oooveer...) again, but every single time you refuse to admit to it. That is why nobody accepts your bets: you do not debate honestly, and you will never accept you lost it.
Face it, if you bet me that humans have six fingers on each hand, against my claim of five, you'd claim to have won t ...[text shortened]... e some dodgy website or other states that the thumb counts double.
You are not a credible better.
The FDA classifies mRNA therapy as gene therapy. You lost.
"Moderna's SEC filings specifically state that "Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA"
All of you people in psychosis have been proven WRONG!
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@kmax87 saidThe J&J vaccine adds a gene to create viral proteins from what I understand. This would not alter the genes which are already there.
So for the sake of an argument, its a gene therapy. So what of it?
Here's a question.
Does this gene therapy alter my genes?
Yes, or No?
The mRNA vaccines do not interact with or modify your genes in any way.