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When is a price too high? Too low?

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@shavixmir said
There is no question there.

Jesus. Ask a fvcking question!
Asked to whom guaranteed income is owed. Only farmers? Zahlanzi and marauder will not agree with you.
It is OK that you will ignore answering the question, there is plenty of other stuff to talk about. Oh, And if you are brave enough to answer this question, tell us from whom the guarantee comes. I am part of the government myself along with 330 million people. Are we the ones that are guaranteeing this?

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@AverageJoe1
My thresds are always great because it gets you fellers thinking. Not ever reaching an answer however, since you will say someone is guaranteed an income, but cannot go a step further with your comment.
It does, however, entertain us 100% capitalists. Y’all keep it up …..Zanzi marauder moon and Shav… What a passel of mistletoe.


@no1marauder said
"Intellectual property" is an artificial construct.

A patent is someone asking the government to grant them a monopoly enforced by the government against others. As such, the government should be free to set whatever conditions on them it wishes to serve the public good.

You have a strange idea of what is "stealing". Remove patent protection wouldn't be for the gove ...[text shortened]... to use but for other private enterprises. That would lead to increased competition and lower prices.
Heat, Marauder. Your public good comment surely gives me the creeps. Let me pose this question. If I just invented the cure for AIDs, And put it in a briefcase and go somewhere and live down along the river, does anyone have any right to my cure for aids which is in my briefcase? I have money in there too… Does anyone have any rights to that? What is the difference, they are both mine.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Heat, Marauder. Your public good comment surely gives me the creeps. Let me pose this question. If I just invented the cure for AIDs, And put it in a briefcase and go somewhere and live down along the river, does anyone have any right to my cure for aids which is in my briefcase? I have money in there too… Does anyone have any rights to that? What is the difference, they are both mine.
Does this statement "give you the creeps" as well:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I just wrote this post; do you have the "right" to repost it? Sure, because it is in the public domain. Inventions of any sort would be the same thing absent the government intervention of a patent i.e. a monopoly enforceable against other persons.

So it's government interference in the "free market", isn't it?

Right wing libertarians who actually take this "free market" nonsense seriously generally oppose patents; right wingers who believe what they are told to by propaganda sources run by fat cats don't.

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@no1marauder said
Does this statement "give you the creeps" as well:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of ...[text shortened]... atents; right wingers who believe what they are told to by propaganda sources run by fat cats don't.
Why do you not write a straight answer? That is the question of the ages about marauder. Do you think Suzanne is going to follow you, because I sure don’t. Let me make it even simpler. I create the medicine that cures Covid. I know it works. My neighbor knows it works. I told him about it and then I get my medicine and put it in a briefcase and I’ll leave with it and is never used on anyone and never cures anybody, but it is proven by my method, that will work.
OK, so we are together on that. The neighbor goes and tells somebody in the government about this cure in my briefcase. Now the same question …..does anyone have a right to take anything out of my briefcase? You will really entertain us if you try to create something that does not exist in the constitution. Standing by. Thank you.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Why do you not write a straight answer? That is the question of the ages about marauder. Do you think Suzanne is going to follow you, because I sure don’t. Let me make it even simpler. I create the medicine that cures Covid. I know it works. My neighbor knows it works. I told him about it and then I get my medicine and put it in a briefcase and I’ll leave with it and is ...[text shortened]... n us if you try to create something that does not exist in the constitution. Standing by. Thank you.
Governments don't have "rights"; only individuals do.

Governments have "powers" and the only question is whether a particular act is a proper use of a legitimate power.

Given the government's legitimate power to protect the health and safety of the community, including from deadly, contagious diseases, I'd say it could take your cure and use it to save perhaps millions of lives. Maybe they'd be nice and reimburse you for it.

EDIT: And actually something does exist in the Constitution covering this:

nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment

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@no1marauder said
Governments don't have "rights"; only individuals do.

Governments have "powers" and the only question is whether a particular act is a proper use of a legitimate power.

Given the government's legitimate power to protect the health and safety of the community, including from deadly, contagious diseases, I'd say it could take your cure and use it to save perhaps milli ...[text shortened]...

nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment
That is a good answer, govt could certainly do that, but that opens this can of worms, the reason I asked it.
I think that Biden pulled the payment of tuition of billions and billions of dollars as a test to us all. The test is to see if there is ever anyone that will do anything about anything. I think I said that right. So, since he got away with that, they have set themselves up to do anything that they want to do, because no one will ever stop anything. Their next move will be to pay off all the credit cards, especially those of aliens. No one will stop that. And then they will continue on with the handout programs, some of which will actually be given to people on this forum. In short, dictators will arise. Tell Sonhouse. Can’t have democracy and a dictator at the same time. Please take this Post seriously. They can do what they want to. No Congress needed.
Just think of all the new
issues that will arise that we can chat about for a long, long time.

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Oops meant to say that you Shav and Z would consider paying off credit cards would be public good.
Well? Wouldn’t it? That is the one reason that is the catalyst.

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@no1marauder said
Yes, the joy of escaping such awful "tyranny" by dying because you can't afford a lifesaving drug that is priced multiples higher in the US then in the rest of the advanced world:

"According to a 2021 study by the RAND Corporation, a non-profit global policy think tank, prices of prescription drugs in the U.S. are 2.4 times higher than the average prices of nine other ...[text shortened]... Prescription Drugs Compared to Other Countries?" at the website of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation.
Drugs and the drug industry is a different beast than food.

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@wildgrass said
Didn't you guys just spend the last 4 years blaming Biden for not fixing inflation?
Fixing inflation, no he caused it by new spending, trillions on the backs of taxpayers. Throwing money around like doing so was meaningless and without consequences, all flash and show.

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@AverageJoe1 said
That is a good answer, govt could certainly do that, but that opens this can of worms, the reason I asked it.
I think that Biden pulled the payment of tuition of billions and billions of dollars as a test to us all. The test is to see if there is ever anyone that will do anything about anything. I think I said that right. So, since he got away with that, they have set ...[text shortened]... Just think of all the new
issues that will arise that we can chat about for a long, long time.
You do realize that:

A) Biden didn't "pulled the payment of tuition of billions and billions of dollars" whatever that means; and

B) The proposals regarding student loan repayment that Biden made which you have ceaselessly complained about have been blocked by the courts and the administration has followed all court orders?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Oops meant to say that you Shav and Z would consider paying off credit cards would be public good.
Well? Wouldn’t it? That is the one reason that is the catalyst.
Have you ever heard of this thing called "bankruptcy"?

That's where the government says a debtor doesn't have to repay a private creditor at all.

Isn't that worse then the government saying you don't have to pay the government what you owe them?

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@KellyJay said
Fixing inflation, no he caused it by new spending, trillions on the backs of taxpayers. Throwing money around like doing so was meaningless and without consequences, all flash and show.
That's BS. There was a worldwide surge of inflation after COVID restrictions were relaxed. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/06/inflation-stats-usa-and-world/

It's simple minded right wing propaganda to blame Biden's modest programs for an inflation spike that hit virtually the entire world.

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@no1marauder said
Have you ever heard of this thing called "bankruptcy"?

That's where the government says a debtor doesn't have to repay a private creditor at all.

Isn't that worse then the government saying you don't have to pay the government what you owe them?
You surprise me, 'confusingly' comparing the two. What a laugh. Totally different things. Totally. Geez

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@no1marauder said
You do realize that:

A) Biden didn't "pulled the payment of tuition of billions and billions of dollars" whatever that means; and

B) The proposals regarding student loan repayment that Biden made which you have ceaselessly complained about have been blocked by the courts and the administration has followed all court orders?
He is paying.

And no one on this thread believes your ridiculous position that the forgiveness of the loans did not cost anything. If you say that some more, I will gloss over. I already gloss over Shouse trump stuff. I mean, really. Y'all read Shouse, give him my regards.


https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/biden-harris-administration-announces-additional-77-billion-approved-student-debt-relief-160000-borrowers

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