There are some tell tale signs that are a clue that a person is cheating with a program or a stronger person is giving move advice. One is that the player is playing a much stronger game in a short span of time. This can be like a six grade math studient making a A in Calculus. Maybe this could happen in some six years. Another thing is that the players playing style changes. Even a program has a way it plays the game. You have a playing strength and a playing style. Now that we have a A in calculus game we check the game with Fritz move by move past the opening book. When the game matches Fritz it is concluded that Fritz was playing the game. Any player can play a book opening out to eight or so to even twenty pluss moves. Thus the game is studied past the book. Once game play has left the book the game is checked for a program match. The process the various servers use is considered classified so that the players have no clue as to how to counter the game checking process. Another thing some servers do is to check your computer to see if it is running another program. I guess that a Windows update or a virus scan might cause a alarm at such a time. They may also do a screen shot. I consider these last two tricks an envasion of privacy. I would like to get my hands on some of those spyware people.
I will never understand cheating at online chess. What does a player stand to gain from such actions? Wooo, you've got a high rating, but the reality of the matter is that if you cheated, you're still stupid, YOU didn't win jack, and you've ruined the game for yourself at the least.
If I wanted to play against a computer, I'd play against a computer.
Originally posted by wormwoodNo, because after 300 games vs Kasparov I would have learnt a lot and manage to obtain a good few draws.
the odds are he would.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_beaten_Garry_Kasparov_in_chess
The evidence is in the way ELO ratings work my past results support this. ELO ratings give a probability of beating another player and nothing is 100% certain. In past games despite having a peak rating of only about 1950 (ELO) I have beaten an IM and drawn with a WGM over the board in 40 minutes per 2 hour games. I regularly get reasonable results against much stronger players, although they will beat me more often than not, and occasionally lose to weaker players rated 400 or 400 ELO points below me.
The point I am making is if someone plays 300 games and wins them all then, unless he is playing absolute patsers and what is the point in that, by definition he must be cheating somehow!
Originally posted by Dragon FireEndgame databases provide solutions (generated by engines) to any and all positions upto a certain number of pieces remaining on the board. Books give principles and sample positions. You have to figure out whether the book position applies or not.
So sticking with a book whether written or computerised for the opening (which can be a lot of moves) is OK but using an end game database is not. But books can give just as much information on endgames and I have dozens of these so why are these acceptable?
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Originally posted by RagnorakSo basically you are starting what is really pretty obvious. You must play the game yourself. Use resources that help you learn and understand the priciples but at the end of the day you must be making moves yourself based on your knowledge and understanding and not using a database or engine to play the game for you (with a total lack of understanding then of why a move is made and why it may be good or bad)
Endgame databases provide solutions (generated by engines) to any and all positions upto a certain number of pieces remaining on the board. Books give principles and sample positions. You have to figure out whether the book position applies or not.
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Frankly there is no point in playing like that. If you don't understand the reasons for a move and why you are making it then the game is pointless as you are not playing it. You (the cheater) is the biggest loser.