In your personal experiences over the years, what are the near and longer term effects
of extreme fatigue on the function of the conscious and subconscious human mind?
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke I believe dreams are just the unconscious brain getting rid of information it doesn't need to hang onto. A 'sleep dustbin' if you like. (Which is why we usually forget dreams when we wake up, or only have a hazy recollection of them). In short, we're not mean't to remember them. (It's like going to the trash bin and taking out something we've already ...[text shortened]... rid of random information we already know, how could they ever tell us anything we don't know?!
Well, if dreaming is merely the discarding of needless information we've gathered from our senses, then a dream about something we did not know by way of our senses would not be part of that process.
Originally posted by divegeester Why do you find it "amazing"? It's just a quote from someone you don't know, made by Grampy Bobby who posts hundreds of quotes, rather than contribute genuine thoughts of his own.
Why...?
What I find "amazing" is the idea that one can dream a dream about a previously unknown thing.
It implies that such a dream was planted in one's mind by an outside agency.
One could fall asleep in front of the TV, hear something, and the scrap of information could turn up in a jumble of ideas (a dream) at some later point, but one would be ill-advised to look upon this idea as being "a dream about a previously unknown thing".
Originally posted by FMF One could fall asleep in front of the TV, hear something, and the scrap of information could turn up in a jumble of ideas (a dream) at some later point, but one would be ill-advised to look upon this idea as being "a dream about a previously unknown thing".
True.
But what of the possibility of having a "dream" not caused by information gathered by the senses?
I'm merely suggesting that if such a thing is possible, then such a "dream" would have to be planted in the mind by an outside agency.
Originally posted by josephw I'm merely suggesting that if such a thing is possible, then such a "dream" would have to be planted in the mind by an outside agency.
Planted? By a TV set, a radio, a conversation overheard but not paid attention to at the time, a long 'forgotten' magazine article you once read ~ that kind of thing?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Ever consider the possibility that some nightmares may not be negative in terms of their beneficial impact on our lives?
Well, no, but how would I know? Truth is I place no stock in my dreams one way or the other. Dreams and the subconscious are just mysteries to me. Entertaining to explore and discuss, but who really knows. I sure don't. I know they exist, but I don't know how or why, and I don't think anyone else does either.
Ecclesiastes 5:33a
For a dream cometh through the multitude of business;
Originally posted by FMF Planted? By a TV set, a radio, a conversation overheard but not paid attention to at the time, a long 'forgotten' magazine article you once read ~ that kind of thing?
I think you're missing a part of what I said.
What about a dream that isn't caused by any information gathered through the senses? I've never had one as far as I know. Have you?
Originally posted by josephw I think you're missing a part of what I said.
What about a dream that isn't caused by any information gathered through the senses? I've never had one as far as I know. Have you?
You seem to be saying something along the lines of '...if it had been planted by an outside agency then it would have been planted by an outside agency and wouldn't that be interesting' which sounds a bit like the kind of speculation that leads to belief in supernatural things. I have never had any convincing reason to believe that anyone's dream was caused by information not gathered through the senses.
29 Feb '16 00:16
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