Originally posted by SuzianneNo, but crying and sniveling like the bitch you are is childish.
So I'm glad to see that you get this concept and being something that people ordinarily do. But we went this entire game suffering under no1's pomposity and arrogance, and you think allying against him is childish.
This week's Power Ratings:
1. Golden Horde 1
2. Morocco 4
3. Saxony 2
4. Bavaria 5
5. Sicily 7
6. Aragon 3
7. Hungary 6
8. Castile 9
9. Acquitaine 8
10. Venice 12
11. Mamulukes 13
12. Novgorod 16
13. France 11
14. Norway 14
15. Teutons 10
16. Byzantine 15
17. Roum 18
18. Hafsids 19
19. Denmark 17
20. Poland 20
21. England 21
Eliminated: Arles, Lithuania
Freddie's still alive with 2 Carracks though he lost his ground troops; if he can find his way to the Med, I'll give him a few pirates! The Teutons become the latest "ally" of the Big Boys to get it in the back; two turns after helping the Horde demolish Poland, the Mongols attack them in concert with Novgorod and our cowardly Duke of Bavaria. Hope they're not expecting him to move too fast. Looks like the Moroccans can't handle the Mamulukes on their own; Aragon and Castile have ran so far away from the Germans after botching it in Swabia that they're about to bump into the Orient apparently.
Originally posted by SuzianneI think allying against Venice in the way that it was done was counter-productive for many of the realms involved. His abrasiveness caused several of you, in my opinion, to make moves based not on sound strategy but on emotion. For some realms, the results have been predictably bad.
So I'm glad to see that you get this concept and being something that people ordinarily do. But we went this entire game suffering under no1's pomposity and arrogance, and you think allying against him is childish.
I have understood the concept of losing my temper and lashing out at whoever made me angry since before I could walk. Swipe my Tonka Truck in the sandbox and it was go time. As I grew, I learned that getting back at people who angered me was not always the best thing for ME. Especially in a game. A game. This is a game.
To describe your experience in this game as "suffering" is, perhaps, taking it a teensy bit too far. You were manipulated, yes, but only because you allowed yourself to be. This would indicate that you might be "suffering" from something else entirely.
Originally posted by GottschalkTease tactics...
I think allying against Venice in the way that it was done was counter-productive for many of the realms involved. His abrasiveness caused several of you, in my opinion, to make moves based not on sound strategy but on emotion. For some realms, the results have been predictably bad.
I have understood the concept of losing my temper and lashing out at ...[text shortened]... self to be. This would indicate that you might be "suffering" from something else entirely.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungActually, we were about to ally. Every talk was to that end. there was no warning at all that he was goign to declare.
It's a way too keep another nation under control. Apparently they don't want you acting aggressively and are forcing you to defend your borders. Were you about to attack someone they like?
But he did act this turn by taking Tuscany from me. I think I am short lived in this one....but I will fight tooth and nail to the last.
Originally posted by no1marauderAnd of course, you are privy to all of the diplomatic dealings that have been going on and are 100% sure that you are correct in your statement. There was no stab in the back. We had an agreement. I lived up to my end of the bargain. He did not. That broke the alliance, hence the new actions taken against him.
The Teutons become the latest "ally" of the Big Boys to get it in the back; two turns after helping the Horde demolish Poland, the Mongols attack them in concert with Novgorod and our cowardly Duke of Bavaria. Hope they're not expecting him to move too fast.
So, in fact, you are incorrect.
I am cowardly? Yes, oh he who ran from the second most valuble province on the map. Pssshhh....
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Originally posted by KnightWulfeReading isn't your strong point (what is?); obviously the "stab in the back" was referring to the Horde turning on an ally who assisted them only two turns ago destroy a realm.
And of course, you are privy to all of the diplomatic dealings that have been going on and are 100% sure that you are correct in your statement. There was no stab in the back. We had an agreement. I lived up to my end of the bargain. He did not. That broke the alliance, hence the new actions taken against him.
So, in fact, you are incorrect.
I am cowardly? Yes, oh he who ran from the second most valuble province on the map. Pssshhh....
Despite you and the Hungarians having an overwhelming advantage, it took you 10 turns and ANOTHER realm to take Venice (a realm that could have destroyed you at little cost). Your movement vary from supercautious to outright foolish. You're probably going to be part of the winning coalition due to the folly of others, but patting yourself on the back is inappropriate.
My persona in this game might be various things, but a realm that's been fighting against such heavy odds since early on and has scored so many military victories is hardly "cowardly".
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Originally posted by nook7Going Neutral without warning (we have been allied since the 2nd or 3rd turn) while at the same time attacking an ally with whom I'm conducting combat operations and who is assisting me control the seas around Italy is an "aggressive move" in my book, King. This was also after you stopped responding to diplomatic messages.
War Doge,
l would hardly call my going Neutral on you a betrayal. l haven't made a single aggressive move towards Venice in this game. l am not sure if this is what prompted you to declare war on me?
Perhaps we can discuss this?
KoM
I am always willing to negotiate; please PM me.
Originally posted by no1marauderBoy would I LOVE to be in your warped sense of reality where everything I did was right and justified even if it mirrored what someone else did that was a mistake, loss or blunder.... Where everyone else's victories are luck, chance or were because of someone else....even though my own victories where made with the help of others as well....
Reading isn't your strong point (what is?); obviously the "stab in the back" was referring to the Horde turning on an ally who assisted them only two turns ago destroy a realm.
Despite you and the Hungarians having an overwhelming advantage, it took you 10 turns and ANOTHER realm to take Venice (a realm that could have destroyed you at little c ...[text shortened]... heavy odds since early on and has scored so many military victories is hardly "cowardly".
What is that kind of reality like? How can I get there? Will I have to give up my soul?
Originally posted by KnightWulfeOf course, I've never stated such idiocies. If you want to discuss the things I've brought up, dicuss them. If not, don't. Why you have to immediately go into your "attack mode" is unclear to me. If you disagree with my assessments, simply say why in the specific case you disagree with them. I don't see anything that I said in that last post that was untrue; do you?
Boy would I LOVE to be in your warped sense of reality where everything I did was right and justified even if it mirrored what someone else did that was a mistake, loss or blunder.... Where everyone else's victories are luck, chance or were because of someone else....even though my own victories where made with the help of others as well....
What is that kind of reality like? How can I get there? Will I have to give up my soul?
Originally posted by no1marauderThat's the problem. Every major campaign I was a party to was pre-empted by either people tattling what they knew or sheer blind luck or an ally dropping out.
LMFAO! When exactly did you attack anybody with "overwhelming" force????? You're a true joke, Princess Dimwit.
Originally posted by SuzianneYour biggest problem was being slothful. You did nothing of consequence for turn after turn. You left a big piece of your army, over 600 CS on Crete, doing nothing for 6 turns. I was surprised you never attacked the Mamulukes or landed an army in the Balkans to assist the Bavarians and the Hungarians. You didn't do anything. Eventually you were seen to be weak and isolated because you were. That's why you lost your Empire so quickly.
That's the problem. Every major campaign I was a party to was pre-empted by either people tattling what they knew or sheer blind luck or an ally dropping out.
Originally posted by no1marauderLet me guess... were you Joseph Goebbels in a previous life?
Your biggest problem was being slothful. You did nothing of consequence for turn after turn. You left a big piece of your army, over 600 CS on Crete, doing nothing for 6 turns. I was surprised you never attacked the Mamulukes or landed an army in the Balkans to assist the Bavarians and the Hungarians. You didn't do anything. Eventually you were seen to be weak and isolated because you were. That's why you lost your Empire so quickly.
Originally posted by SuziannePlease see my post above to KW. This is the Medieval Diplomacy Strategy thread; if you have something useful to add to that topic please do. If you disagree with my assessment, please give specific reasons why. Why continue with your childish fits of pique when I simply gave you some constructive criticism? Why keep being a bitch?
Let me guess... were you Joseph Goebbels in a previous life?