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Originally posted by no1marauderMy upkeep is 48 and my military is currently bigger than his. Isn't it?
For those wondering what happened to Novgorod's gold, before last turn Bavaria had 10 Elite Marines and 4 Royal Gallions in Venice. After last turn they had 23 EM's and 12 RG's there. EM's cost 6 Gold and RG's 10 meaning Bavaria spent 158 Gold in Venice. Bavaria has a total of 105 annexed Gold provinces plus their upkeep must be around 50 for their large army. Where did all that extra gold come from??
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Originally posted by no1marauderHe also purchased 6 carracks in Prussia at 9 gold per.
For those wondering what happened to Novgorod's gold, before last turn Bavaria had 10 Elite Marines and 4 Royal Gallions in Venice. After last turn they had 23 EM's and 12 RG's there. EM's cost 6 Gold and RG's 10 meaning Bavaria spent 158 Gold in Venice. Bavaria has a total of 105 annexed Gold provinces plus their upkeep must be around 50 for their large army. Where did all that extra gold come from??
Originally posted by AThousandYoungOK let's say 40. Let's say he pillages a few spots (including Venice) and gets 30 more (being generous). That's 135 - 40 or 95 gold. How many times have you built 158 Gold in one province; you have 105 Gold annexed province value, too.
My upkeep is 48 and my military is currently bigger than his. Isn't it?
Originally posted by no1marauderVenice hasn't taken any damage, so I don't think he could have pillaged it.
OK let's say 40. Let's say he pillages a few spots (including Venice) and gets 30 more (being generous). That's 135 - 40 or 95 gold. How many times have you built 158 Gold in one province; you have 105 Gold annexed province value, too.
Here's a theory: Novgorod has been transferring all or virtually all his Gold to Bavaria ever since the Teutons fell and there was an open route of provinces as required by the rules for Gold transfers. The "death in the family" story is BS.
Whaddya think? Does anybody else have an explanation for how a realm can build units worth double its annexed Gold value before upkeep is even taken into account?
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A great turnfile; every inch of Novgorod was taken over by the Horde and Bavaria. Saxony attacked Norway, a task made easier by the absence of the Norwegian fleet. Could people tell me again how I'm just a "sore loser" and there's nothing to any "collusion" allegations?
BTW, Poland committed suicide in Rome rather than trying to retake its non-defended prior provinces from the Bavarians.
Originally posted by no1marauderGaribaldi sent Gaynor the Damned back to hell. He was never a very successful commander. Nor was he helped by certain Castilian reinforcements going the wrong way!
Another turn, another army destroyed by Garibaldi and the Army of Venice.
In four rounds of combat, Aragon also lost 7 peasants, 4 heavy infantry, 4 archers, 1 light cavalry and 2 Spanish knights.
Venice lost 8 crossbowmen, 2 siege engines, 2 French knights, 2 light cavalry and 2 heavy cavalry, with 4 heavy cavalry surviving. I don't know what he lost in Savoy.
Will the redoubtable Garibaldi, whose indomitable valour has earned him the respect of all his enemies, make it our alive?
Originally posted by no1marauderSorry, I'm finding some of the lines of thought a little hard to follow (although I certainly have no problem with the notion that Novgorod's actions were outrageously biased against Norway).
Suppose for a second you are right; how are the actions of Bavaria and the Horde not contemptible? THEY took advantage of the fact that Novgorod had a death in the family to improve their situation in the game. In addition, they kept this information secret from everybody else. You need to look up the definition of the word "collude" if you don't think " ...[text shortened]... y troops to defend them so you can conquer them so you'll win the game" isn't collusion.
Probably because I'm not actually playing, I'm not clear on which actions of Novgorod were unilateral, and which actions that assisted other realms HAD to be bilateral.
I think that's important, because to me 'taking advantage' requires some measure of positive action.
For instance, isn't granting of passage rights something that's unilateral? In terms of game mechanics at least. Which would mean Novgorod could grant the rights without having discussed doing that.
If that's true, then there's not a lot that the other realms could do about it other than reach an agreement NOT to enter those provinces, which would effectively remove a section of the map from play altogether. That wouldn't be any more satisfactory than what's happened.
And I doubt the game has a mechanism for refusing a present of gold.
Grateful for any thoughts, corrections, clarifications, and instances of actions Novgorod took that could only happen bilaterally.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageErr... yeah... umm.. I fear that Rodrigo the Gloomy was drowning his sorrows with schnapps and ordered his men to the wrong province. I think he may be in need of a name change.
Garibaldi sent Gaynor the Damned back to hell. He was never a very successful commander. Nor was he helped by certain Castilian reinforcements going the wrong way!
In four rounds of combat, Aragon also lost 7 peasants, 4 heavy infantry, 4 archers, 1 light cavalry and 2 Spanish knights.
Venice lost 8 crossbowmen, 2 siege engines, 2 French knights ...[text shortened]... ldi, whose indomitable valour has earned him the respect of all his enemies, make it our alive?