Originally posted by rwingettYou've clearly got too much time on your hands.
For you statisics buffs out there, I've gone through all my old turnfiles and totalled up all the casualties I've suffered and inflicted throughout all my campaigns. I've totalled up the GP cost of all the units lost for easy comparison. They are as follows:
Golden Horde 63 vs. Independants 124
Golden Horde 65 vs. Byzantium 72
Golden Horde 140 vs. Lith ...[text shortened]... ts have to be guessed at in battles involving one or more allies. Totals may not be exact.
Originally posted by rwingettEven more impressive is your land combat ratio, since you have suffered a net loss in shipping.
The Golden Horde has consistently inflicted about a 2 to 1 casualty rate on it's enemies throughout the game.
Has anyone attacked the Horde in this game besides Castile, Morocco and Aragon in the last few turns, or has it all been you attacking others? That might explain the disparity.
That's not supposed to sound snarky; it's a pretty neat trick if you can pull it off.
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Originally posted by GottschalkFor the most part, it was the Horde attacking independents, bots, and "allies" who were retarded enough to give him full access to their lands. The recent victory in Thessalonia was worth bragging about I guess. The victories over the Italians were simply nabbing land far from their base of power while Bavaria and I were pounding Venice.
Even more impressive is your land combat ratio, since you have suffered a net loss in shipping.
Has anyone attacked the Horde in this game besides Castile, Morocco and Aragon in the last few turns, or has it all been you attacking others? That might explain the disparity.
That's not supposed to sound snarky; it's a pretty neat trick if you can pull it off.
Which of your enemies had Mtd. Infantry? Must have been an Independent.
Notice how many Mongol Raiders he's lost. That's because most of his combat was blitzkrieging through his allies' land.
Originally posted by Gottschalkl have not had any conflicts with the Horde in this game.
Even more impressive is your land combat ratio, since you have suffered a net loss in shipping.
Has anyone attacked the Horde in this game besides Castile, Morocco and Aragon in the last few turns, or has it all been you attacking others? That might explain the disparity.
That's not supposed to sound snarky; it's a pretty neat trick if you can pull it off.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungApart from Lithuania and Novgorod, who else? I can't believe anyone would have let the Horde into their land after what happened to Lithuania.
For the most part, it was the Horde attacking independents, bots, and "allies" who were retarded enough to give him full access to their lands.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungIn this game I have been given passage rights by Lithuania, Hungary, and Novgorod. Venice gave me passage rights through Macedonia when they briefly controlled it.
He betrayed the Teutonic Knights too. I am not sure if they gave him passage rights though.
I flagrantly abused Lithuania's passage rights. I never abused Hungary's passage rights. And I only abused Novgord's when a regime change became inevitable. Not nearly a bad a record as you make it out to be.
Originally posted by GottschalkWe Mongols don't like ships too much. Terra Firma suits us better. But that's not entirely true. Last turn I sacrificed my fleet to blunt the incoming Castilian/Aragonese attack. I lost 13 medium galleys against 6 Light Infantry. I lost ships while he lost infantry, which makes the ratio you talk about much more pronounced. But I more than made up for it in the absolute slaughter which followed in Thessalonia. I butchered the invading army to the tune of 39 GP value lost to 196. A 5 to 1 ratio. But I had every advantage. The enemy had a negative amphibious modifier. I had defensive fortifications and a very good commander. Plus their attack was poorly coordinated, landing in two succesive waves, each of which was defeated in detail.
Even more impressive is your land combat ratio, since you have suffered a net loss in shipping.
Has anyone attacked the Horde in this game besides Castile, Morocco and Aragon in the last few turns, or has it all been you attacking others? That might explain the disparity.
That's not supposed to sound snarky; it's a pretty neat trick if you can pull it off.
But to answer your question, that was the first time I'd been attacked by anyone. In every other campaign I had been able to attack when it suited me. That speaks more highly of my diplomacy skills than of my military ones.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI lost so many Mongol Raiders because that's what I primarily built early on. Mongol Raiders and Mongol Horse Archers, with the raiders being in the 1st rank. Once I started to expand I started putting Light Spearmen, Boyar Guards, and Horde Warriors in the 1st rank and moved the Mongol Raiders to the 2nd rank with the archers.
For the most part, it was the Horde attacking independents, bots, and "allies" who were retarded enough to give him full access to their lands. The recent victory in Thessalonia was worth bragging about I guess. The victories over the Italians were simply nabbing land far from their base of power while Bavaria and I were pounding Venice.
Which of y ...[text shortened]... rs he's lost. That's because most of his combat was blitzkrieging through his allies' land.
But the Mongol Raider's quickness and cheap cost make them ideal for raiding parties deep into enemy terrain to gobble up provinces which might be undefended. It was a single Mongol Raider which captured Warsaw from the Poles.
I am playing the Golden Horde in one of the other games I am playing currently. The only two units I build are the Mongol Raiders and Mongol Horse Archers.
The extra move point gives me SO many more options and the double attack capability is crazy. I, too, took Warzaw on a second attack in my game.
Another thing I do with the few infantry that I started with is to scrap all the garrison fortifications I have. With a strict cavalry-only purchasing policy, they won't be doing me much good and I don't want them to be of any assistance to anyone who dares attack my unprotected rear.
I played Bavaria in my first game and it is like playing the game on "slow." A great starter position, like Poland or Lithuania. Naval powers like Venice, England, or the Byzantines are also fun, but the Horde is the most fun I've had yet in MD.
Yeah, all that and we were about to see this thread drop to page four. This is not as it should be.
Originally posted by GottschalkThat is very Mongolian of you, historically speaking. Raze the walls, leave pyramids of hands as a souvenir. The Mongol figures on the map are the most bloodthirsty by far, and for good reason it seems!
Another thing I do with the few infantry that I started with is to scrap all the garrison fortifications I have. With a strict cavalry-only purchasing policy, they won't be doing me much good and I don't want them to be of any assistance to anyone who dares attack my unprotected rear.
The most talkative posters have all left the building...
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Originally posted by eagles54Turns are in for real for me. Hungary successfully stopped the Khan's attempt to blitzkrieg, but there's still a lotta Horde troops in my lands...
I just received "new" turns for MD and for another game I'm in.
Trouble is, it's the old turnfile but it's listed as Turn 22 in the email.
EDIT - How the hell did you land in Prussia, Gotts?!?! Fantastic move!