Originally posted by Bosse de NageThanks Bosse,
Leader on points: Morocco! Excellent work. Now I think it's time to prepare the spectular operation that we have been discussing.
My Guards performed well enough in Warsaw, exchanging their lives for a considerable number of Boyar guards. The Golden Horde's borders are becoming increasingly porous.
We Moroocans would not have been able to do this without the help of our gallant allies. It seems that with the festivities the Leader of the Moroccans has put his back out ! :-(
Lots of heat of late but not enough light.
I really hate it when players drop rather than face their loss, but really, the Horde has faced his loss. The deal with Hungary is OUR cross to bear, not the Khan's. His decision to drop seems reasonable under the circumstances.
Additionally, it makes it much more palatable for us to continue to ravage Horde lands. If the Khan abdicates, he would get no points and I have no problem pursuing a 5v1 against a computer.
I would like to publically apologize for the amateurish manner in which I painted Hungary in a corner by proposing a renegotiation of our deal in public. He may have very well agreed to such a renegotiation had I presented it to him privately. Bad form on my part.
Let us remember that when the "Western Coalition" decided to tackle the Horde, we were pretty well convinced that we were also taking on Saxony and Bavaria. We did not know where Hungary stood. Some of us were at war with Roum and the Mamelukes. Norway was part of the equation (and don't get me started about the whole honor thing, Ghost of Kodran), too, as was Venice and Sicily.
Hungary's contributions were essential, as BDN has stated. Saxony's decision to walk away COMPLETELY changed the complexion of this game -- it allowed me as Aquitaine to challenge the Horde in the North MUCH quicker than I would have safely been able to do so otherwise. Looking back, I am not sure we could have pulled it off had Saxony not dropped. I say this to help others to understand why we would have agreed to the condition in our deal with Hungary -- namely, that we would not file for victory until his gold value exceeded that of the Horde. Personally, I figured that such a condition would have had to have been met for us to be able to claim victory. I did not foresee us having all of Norway's provinces, for example, or Sicily's.
Originally posted by SuzianneI'm using honor and fair play in another Dip game I'm playing now. I'm in turn 6 and own the waters around England. I just had to break ties with 3 users, as I told them I would do if my plans changed. I warned 2 of them that I'm coming for cookies and milk. One of them I told I wouldn't attack unless they take me to war.
Honor, bah! Fair Play, bah!
An AGE gamer seeks NOT these things.
Precisely why my attention will be elsewhere henceforth.
Will this get me in trouble? Probably... but it's the way I play, and perhaps there is another gamer out there that will now play their game different in the future.
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Come to think of it, I don't believe any one in MMW lied to me, even once.
I was deceitful and a bit underhanded to King Freddy (but we two were already at war), backstabbed Saxony (which was a direct result of some irregular Novgorodian banking practices and a short-lived Baltic naval presence from Bavaria) and tried like the dickens to deceive the Horde. I don't remember deceiving Bavaria, but then, given my track history, I may be decieving myself now.
Oh, wait, Arles... I think he lied to me. I seem to remember a promise of aid against Aragon, but that might have been in return for my promise of aid against Venice. And Venice did attack, and I did not come to Arles' aid, but by then Arles and I did not share a border, unless I am mistaken.
Originally posted by GottschalkI'm pretty sure I was at war with Arles by the time you joined; it was turn 3 at the latest.
Come to think of it, I don't believe any one in MMW lied to me, even once.
I was deceitful and a bit underhanded to King Freddy (but we two were already at war), backstabbed Saxony (which was a direct result of some irregular Novgorodian banking practices and a short-lived Baltic naval presence from Bavaria) and tried like the dickens to deceive the Ho ...[text shortened]... not come to Arles' aid, but by then Arles and I did not share a border, unless I am mistaken.
