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Originally posted by no1marauder
Shoot, I'd send my boys from Istria into Carinthnia this turn outnumbered about 3:1 but your gals will only skedaddle anyway. You've got the only Medieval army that was ever issued Reeboks as standard equipment.
🙂😀
But are the Reeboks there to run forwards or backwards?

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Originally posted by orfeo
Wow, what an interesting goad. Kind of like saying, "you had a queen and rook against my knight, and now I'm going to criticize you for winning".
Call it a pawn gambit. The landlocked nation decided it didn't need a small fleet it couldn't use while the stronger sea-faring nation felt it was easy (and virtually free) pickings. So it offered it up. The rest is chest thumping. Like chess, the real battle is being waged elsewhere.

EDIT: The talk is headology.

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Here's some history for you:

In the year 1177, when the Emperor Barbarossa went to humble himself before the Pope, who had taken refuge in Venice, the Pope, in testimony of the kindness he had there received, gave to the Doge a ring, and with it a right for the Venetians to call the Adriatic sea their own. He bade the Doge cast it into the sea, to wed it, as a man marries his wife; and he enjoined the citizens, by renewing this ceremony every year, to claim a dominion which they had won by their valor; for they had, with a small squadron, defeated a large fleet of the Emperor's and taken his son prisoner; and it was to regain his son that the Emperor submitted himself to the Pope.

http://www.jjkent.com/articles/ceremony-doge-venice.htm

Read a book before you send your pirates into an area which God's representative on Earth has granted the Republic dominion over. You're lucky Pope Ivanhoe the Paranoid hasn't excommunicated the whole heathen lot of ya!

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Originally posted by buffalobill
Call it a pawn gambit. The landlocked nation decided it didn't need a small fleet it couldn't use while the stronger sea-faring nation felt it was easy (and virtually free) pickings. So it offered it up. The rest is chest thumping. Like chess, the real battle is being waged elsewhere.
A poor analogy. In any gambit, there is some gain for the material sacrificed; space, tempo, an open file, something. Here he threw away an asset for no purpose whatsoever.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Since such an ally would be a complete idiot, I hope any "allies" that you have been able to purchase or beg sufficiently for are that "loyal".
Even if one were totally pragmatic, if you're allied with a nation that loses all troops and all but one province (which would presumably have a town, it being the last province), it would be impossible to take that province before it could buy a new garrison. Therefore it might be practical to support them even from a cutthroat point of view. Now, if it didn't have a town...then yeah, you might as well just take it if you're going to be cutthroat pragmatic.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Here's some history for you:

In the year 1177, when the Emperor Barbarossa went to humble himself before the Pope, who had taken refuge in Venice, the Pope, in testimony of the kindness he had there received, gave to the Doge a ring, and with it a right for the Venetians to call the Adriatic sea their own. He bade the Doge cast it into the sea, . You're lucky Pope Ivanhoe the Paranoid hasn't excommunicated the whole heathen lot of ya!
keep that in mind everyone... When I kick no1Citizen to the curb, and am the ruler in Venice.... the Adriatic is mine!! 😀

Edit - oh ya *thump thump thump*

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Even if one were totally pragmatic, if you're allied with a nation that loses all troops and all but one province (which would presumably have a town, it being the last province), it would be impossible to take that province before it could buy a new garrison. Therefore it might be practical to support them even from a cutthroat point of view. Now, i ...[text shortened]... a town...then yeah, you might as well just take it if you're going to be cutthroat pragmatic.
Not true. Built troops appear after all movement, so if a nation has a province with a town left but no troops, anybody can waltz in and take it. Might as well be you.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Not true. Built troops appear after all movement, so if a nation has a province with a town left but no troops, anybody can waltz in and take it. Might as well be you.
No, people who are allied to a country cannot take it's provinces.

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Originally posted by KnightWulfe
keep that in mind everyone... When I kick no1Citizen to the curb, and am the ruler in Venice.... the Adriatic is mine!! 😀

Edit - oh ya *thump thump thump*
Historically, an outsider can never be Doge, which is an elected representative of the people of Venice.

In the game, as I said, unless you get a whole lot of other realms to do the fighting that you are tooooooooooooo cowardly to attempt and tooooooooooooo incompetent to manage (2 Heavy Cavalry lost taking an independent province; brilliant), Venice is gonna be around when your brand of German savages is but a distant memory. The interior of your realm is sure lightly defended; you sure you can trust ALL the surrounding realms?😀

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
No, people who are allied to a country cannot take it's provinces.
Good point, but why would you want to remain allied with a country that was so weak it was in danger of losing ALL its troops and all but one province?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
A poor analogy. In any gambit, there is some gain for the material sacrificed; space, tempo, an open file, something. Here he threw away an asset for no purpose whatsoever.
Ah, but it's headology and it certainly riled you up.

HEADOLOGY: See Terry Pratchett: Wyrd Sisters.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
Ah, but it's headology and it certainly riled you up.

HEADOLOGY: See Terry Pratchett: Wyrd Sisters.
It would have been more effective "headology" if he hadn't immediately started begging for a truce so he could get his fleet out of the pickle he had left it in.

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Here's a site to tide over your Medieval Diplomacy addiction until the turns come in tonight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warfare

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
He elected not to put any soldiers on his ships. That must rank with my blunder of declaring war on Aquitaine and screwing up my troop movement so that the attack took place a turn late.

Any other amusing blunders to share?
My biggest blunder so far was attacking Serbia two rounds ago from two different provinces; HP troops in one and damage and siege troops in the other. Instead of waiting like a good boy Byzantium attacked the half with the siege units. I lost three Light Cav stupidly =/.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
War Report:

Well, war has broken out across the length and breadth of Europe. From what I can see, a state of war exists between:
Aquitaine - Castile
Venice - Arles
Roum - Byzantium
Norway/Saxony - Denmark
Hungary - Byzantium
Teotons - Novgorod
Has Roum attacked the Byzantines? I hadn't thought that they had.