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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I am not telling you (well, your minions) that it's disrespectful to sacrifice your chance to win in order to ruin someone else's. Don't tell me it's disrespectful to resign a lost game.
Oh, really? That's not what you stated before.

"I don't respect the others who are tagging along hoping for scraps - Oda, Hojo and Asakura."

http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=48163&page=86

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War is war, LOSERS! 😏

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Originally posted by Palynka
War is war, LOSERS! 😏
"Losers, and by that I do not mean people who fail to win, always will lash out when they see things not going their way. It is far easier to do this than to (1) re-assess your strategies to see if there was not a better way to do things, (2) practice, or (3) come to grips with the stark reality that you can't be the best at everything."

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Originally posted by treetalk
When confronted by your avatar, dear noodles, any guy with half a ... er ... two ... ahem! would run like the wind! 😀
Well, that would explain your decision if I were still in the game...

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
To play it out to the finish, as players in these games are expected to do. You've ruined this game for all the other players just because you were losing! Would you encourage an attitude like that in any other game?
:'(:'(

I resign hopeless chess games all the time on this site. Why should this game be any different?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Don't you understand that that's not the point?!

Maybe you haven't considered that botting out like this shows disrespect for the other players.
A lot less than players in the game not trying to win but only to help others do so.

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If you want the game to be "interesting" BDN, declare war on the Ikko Ikki and his vassals. That would certainly be a more equal fight than the war against Kyushu where your 9 realms had a 4:1 advantage in Gold Province Value and more in troops and ships.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
If you want the game to be "interesting" BDN, declare war on the Ikko Ikki and his vassals. That would certainly be a more equal fight than the war against Kyushu where your 9 realms had a 4:1 advantage in Gold Province Value and more in troops and ships.
I thought you wanted people to play for the win, not to make the game as interesting as possible.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
"There will be no more retreats; the Ryuzoji and their allies
march, ride and sail to victory or death." etc
And they did. What happened? The Amako and Ikko Ikki retreated even though they had slightly superior forces. Now as a game strategy when you have a overwhelming overall advantage that is understandable, but hardly much fun for the numerically inferior side. It was made clear that your side would not risk any battle that they had any chance of losing. What sense was there for me to play on? For what?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I thought you wanted people to play for the win, not to make the game as interesting as possible.
This is in response to BDN's whining particulary the "You ruined the game" crap.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
This is in response to BDN's whining particulary the "You ruined the game" crap.
And my comment was in response to the game you have playing in this thread all the time - if people don't play for the win, but to have fun, you accuse them of that, and if they do play for the win, you accuse them of bad sportsmanship. I saw your reply to Bosse as a continuation of that.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
And my comment was in response to the game you have playing in this thread all the time - if people don't play for the win, but to have fun, you accuse them of that, and if they do play for the win, you accuse them of bad sportsmanship. I saw your reply to Bosse as a continuation of that.
I don't know what you're talking about. I never accused anybody of "bad sportmanship" because they played for a win. BDN was whimpering about how people "ruined the game" by resigning in a hopeless position; I gave him an idea if he wants to fight against non-bots. But he prefers to have his cake and eat it, too; have virtually everybody else help him win, but have a few of us hang around so he can brag about his great military exploits of defeating us when he has overwhelming odds in his favor (and others keep handing him territory). Screw that.

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Quite frankly, I am considering resigning the game as it is pointless to continue this farce. And I can get into a game where most people are actually trying to win rather than spending all their time helping someone else do so, which I find unsporting and against the spirit of any competitive game.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I don't know what you're talking about. I never accused anybody of "bad sportmanship" because they played for a win. BDN was whimpering about how people "ruined the game" by resigning in a hopeless position; I gave him an idea if he wants to fight against non-bots. But he prefers to have his cake and eat it, too; have virtually everybody else help him wi ...[text shortened]... ne else do so, which I find unsporting and against the spirit of any competitive game.[/b]
Okay, I have been reading through most of your posts again, and it's true that you didn't use the word "bad sportsmanship", but you did accuse Uesugi and Ikko Ikki of deceit, lies and shameful behaviour. You didn't say that such techniques shouldn't have a place in the game, though, so I may have misread your posts a bit.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
It was made clear that your side would not risk any battle that they had any chance of losing. What sense was there for me to play on? For what?
That's not entirely the case.

I just couldn't get my warships into your waters quickly enough.

You could have had your fun trying to "smash" me.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
If you want the game to be "interesting" BDN, declare war on the Ikko Ikki and his vassals. That would certainly be a more equal fight than the war against Kyushu where your 9 realms had a 4:1 advantage in Gold Province Value and more in troops and ships.
If they deny my claim to the Shogunate, I will have to fight them. Otherwise there is no reason to attack them short of bloody murder.

The reason the fight was not equal was due to superior strategy on the side of my alliance...I have not failed to take risks on those occasions when I had the chance to engage with the enemy. Of course, when I sacrifice a fleet against unequal odds, I am being stupid, or replaying Verdun, or whatever insult you can dredge up. I suppose that's just your way...

If I had been in your place, I would have played until victory was declared. Perhaps I would have negotiated a peace, in order to survive. No dishonour in that. Anyway--you might find this approach incomprehensible, but that's none of my concern.

Go play a different game now. Good luck.

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