Originally posted by treetalkThe Ikko Ikki/Uesugi coalition vastly outnumbers everyone else in money and land and may well end up winning.
If Shimazu ends up with more provinces than me than good on him - I think he mentioned that this was his first game so he'll undoubtedly be learning as much as I am - in my second game.
Being in the winners' list doesn't matter to me half as much as it evidently matters to some here. I just hope my actions in these games don't inadvertantly screw up thin ...[text shortened]... reason than to enjoy the game. And to look after the wives of fallen lords, of course!
I wonder which of their minions will win with them and which only hope to be allowed to live.
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungI hope my allies will answer your question. I believe Lord Oda has already explained his stance.
How did you manage to get so many people to support you? What happened to everyones' ambition?
I look forward to a Shogunate veterans game at some point.
Edit: All allies will survive and prosper whether they share in the victory points or not. Not only that but they will gain game experience and have, it is to be hoped, have a laugh.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageIt is funny that people talk of deceit, l have been guilty of no deceit in ANY of the games l have played. If my vassals choose to stay aligned with me that is great, l do not threaten anyone to do so.
I hope my allies will answer your question. I believe Lord Oda has already explained his stance.
I look forward to a Shogunate veterans game at some point.
Originally posted by nook7For some people, failure to inform them of all your plans in advance constitutes deceit (not that any such are playing in this game).
It is funny that people talk of deceit, l have been guilty of no deceit in ANY of the games l have played. If my vassals choose to stay aligned with me that is great, l do not threaten anyone to do so.
Of course Ryuzoji's talk of deceit is a desperate ploy to get his enemies squabbling amongst themselves. Unfortunately he offers no incentive for them to do so, as what guarantee exists that they will not be disposed of in their turn, since, as he points out, there can be a maximum of three victors? Does he expect them to believe that they will be favoured over Otomo and Ito simply for acting in his interests? The old man of Kyushu has some strange ideas.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageYes, it is interesting how, he wants others to rise up against you and l, while the "Kyushu 3" claim victory.
For some people, failure to inform them of all your plans in advance constitutes deceit (not that any such are playing in this game).
Of course Ryuzoji's talk of deceit is a desperate ploy to get his enemies squabbling amongst themselves. Unfortunately he offers no incentive for them to do so, as what guarantee exists that they will not be disposed ...[text shortened]... Otomo and Ito simply for acting in his interests? The old man of Kyushu has some strange ideas.
Aah but of course l cannot see that through all my deceit. l should have known that my actions in selling land to someone else who 3-4 turns ago was fighting the Ryuzoji is deceitful.
Originally posted by nook7You've pulled the wool over your own eyes again. How can you appreciate Lord Oda's artwork now?
Aah but of course l cannot see that through all my deceit. l should have known that my actions in selling land to someone else who 3-4 turns ago was fighting the Ryuzoji is deceitful.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe "incentive" is that rising up against you offers them some, perhaps small, hope of victory whereas their present stance offers them none.
For some people, failure to inform them of all your plans in advance constitutes deceit (not that any such are playing in this game).
Of course Ryuzoji's talk of deceit is a desperate ploy to get his enemies squabbling amongst themselves. Unfortunately he offers no incentive for them to do so, as what guarantee exists that they will not be disposed ...[text shortened]... Otomo and Ito simply for acting in his interests? The old man of Kyushu has some strange ideas.
Originally posted by no1marauderIf they rose up now, they would be crushed in short order. The leeway provided by such a rebellion would be of considerable benefit to you, but not to any dead rebels!
The "incentive" is that rising up against you offers them some, perhaps small, hope of victory whereas their present stance offers them none.