Originally posted by SunburntSB, we'll just have to disagree then.
Here's my "feelings" on the matter, Hand.
You actually believe you are capable of that, REALLY? What legacy is that for your daughter? I know men say this - this business about going after someone who harms their children - but I think it would do much, much more harm to their own families. Your family would need you to be strong, to take care of them ...[text shortened]... no one. Killing is killing, no matter the reason and no reason is good enough for me.
My only comment (and then I'll leave the thread) is that your opinion is a classic example of the opinion of someone who has not seen true evil close up. We put down rabid dogs every day in this country. Some humans are worse than that. Because they know that what they do is evil, but it doesn't stop them or even slow them down. And I don't mean the random lunatic who is a product of some imagined societal mistreatment. Some people who have committed truly heinous crimes deserve (yes, deserve) to die.
I'm not sure what to make of your idea that only men would/could support capital punishment.
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Originally posted by SuzianneYou leave the thread? Why?
SB, we'll just have to disagree then.
My only comment (and then I'll leave the thread) is that your opinion is a classic example of the opinion of someone who has not seen true evil close up. We put down rabid dogs every day in this country. Some humans are worse than that. Because they know that what they do is evil, but it doesn't stop them o 'm not sure what to make of your idea that only men would/could support capital punishment.
I'll say this: you're very wrong about my not having seen evil close up. Perhaps that is why I have this view, eh? Isn't that possible? I've seen it and I wish that I never had, a few times. I do not assume you have NOT seen true evil close up simply because your view differs from mine. I do not view true evil as a cause for killing.
We can disagree. It's ok, isn't it? I never said I think only men could/would support capital punishment, either. I'm not sexist. Humans are capable of true evil. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by SuzianneYou must be pretty special that you know which people deserve to die.
SB, we'll just have to disagree then.
My only comment (and then I'll leave the thread) is that your opinion is a classic example of the opinion of someone who has not seen true evil close up. We put down rabid dogs every day in this country. Some humans are worse than that. Because they know that what they do is evil, but it doesn't stop them o ...[text shortened]... 'm not sure what to make of your idea that only men would/could support capital punishment.
Originally posted by SunburntSB, I like you, and I don't want to throw down with you over something as stupid as this thread. That's why I said I would leave the thread, because I get emotional about some things and that makes me start getting borderline abusive. I'm sure you've seen some of my other posts. Just stopping that train before it wrecks, that's all.
You leave the thread? Why?
I'll say this: you're very wrong about my not having seen evil close up. Perhaps that is why I have this view, eh? Isn't that possible? I've seen it and I wish that I never had, a few times. I do not assume you have NOT seen true evil close up simply because your view differs from mine. I do not view true evil as a cause fo ...[text shortened]... l punishment, either. I'm not sexist. Humans are capable of true evil. Plain and simple.
Yeah, it's ok to disagree, but I don't want it to devolve into arguing with you. So I'm going out to get my fresh air now. 😕
"Call me a girl, but capital punishment is not a deterrent and it heals no one."
This sounds like you think support for capital punishment is a "guy" thing. Perhaps I'm just not reading it like you wrote it. 😳
Originally posted by SuzianneThat was just a pre-emptive comment (the girl thing) towards HoH.
SB, I like you, and I don't want to throw down with you over something as stupid as this thread. That's why I said I would leave the thread, because I get emotional about some things and that makes me start getting borderline abusive. I'm sure you've seen some of my other posts. Just stopping that train before it wrecks, that's all.
Yeah, it's ok to d ...[text shortened]... unishment is a "guy" thing. Perhaps I'm just not reading it like you wrote it. 😳
Fair enough, Suzi. I understand.
Originally posted by trev33I had 100 gallons of Jello, and you're whining about some dirt and water? Pathetic 😞
ah come on, the good people here at rhp deserve to see a cat fight. what am i supposed to do with all this mud now? have you any idea much much water will be wasted here. very selfish the both of you. *shakes head*
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI hate to go against my word, but I feel HoH, starting one of the most thought provoing threads of late, earned at least my one rec.
Minister's sentence in sex case unchanged
A minister is seeking prison time instead of house arrest after his conviction for impregnating his teenage goddaughter.
BY TONYA ALANEZ
Sun Sentinel
Less than a week after being sentenced to two years of house arrest for impregnating his 15-year-old goddaughter, a Broward minister was in court Thursday as ...[text shortened]... son.
Lewis' Fort Lauderdale home is about 700 feet from a bus stop, Ermine said.
*Back into character*
Originally posted by SunburntAm I capable of executing a person the hypothetical offender if they had killed my daughter? Assuming I knew them to be absolutely guilty beyond any shadow of a doubt, then, yes, I would be more than capable of ending their misbegotten life.
Here's my "feelings" on the matter, Hand.
You actually believe you are capable of that, REALLY? What legacy is that for your daughter? I know men say this - this business about going after someone who harms their children - but I think it would do much, much more harm to their own families. Your family would need you to be strong, to take care of them ...[text shortened]... no one. Killing is killing, no matter the reason and no reason is good enough for me.
You know that most marriages do not survive the violent loss of a child right? My wife is a very strong person, very independant. This can make her a total pain in the ass sometimes, but, it is one of the things I love most about her. I say this to convey that if someone killed our daughter, my wife would undoubtably feel the same way I do. I would fully expect to be held accountable to the laws of our society.
Should the offender have the good fortune of encountering our law enforcement officials first and be sentenced accordingly. I would devote my life, will and resources to making his life a living, breathing hell.
I have a lot of respect for our law enforcement community. I think they have a difficult job. One made substantially more difficult for our lack of social programs, voluntary eductation, lack of parental discipline, and our overly liberal tolerance of those that clearly demonstrate by committing crimes that they cannot function as part of our society.
In my opinion prison is a breeding ground for future offenders. Why we don't isolate the unredeemable violent criminals from those committing much lesser offenses is beyond me. Some of the minor crimes we prosecute are ridiculous. Don't get me started on the racial inequality in the application of our laws. Don't get me started on the lack of social programs, enforced education and strong community leadership that rots much of our society from within. We are our own worst enemies. If we spent half as much money educating people, giving them skills and finding them jobs as we do keeping them housed in prison, we;d be exponentially better off. Still, at the end of the day, if you as an adult commit a crime, you better be willing to face the consequences.
I respect your opinion and I'm sorry you are offended by mine. You're a good person and your empathy is a credit to you. I, on the other hand, am not so charitable.