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Originally posted by wormwood
guess what. you haven't played against surf dude, and your only game against cordeiro2 is in progress.
Correct, read above postings.

I am not talking about my games - I am talking about one of my opponents who I have not timed out despite having the skull up on his 2 games.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
OTB my opponent is generally not on vacation!
And if they decided they wanted to take a couple of hours to meet their girlfriend in the middle of your game? What would you do then? What exactly is the difference? If you agree to the time controls, then that's that. You have to play within them. Surely, he knew he was going away last month when the game started? Vacations don't generally just happen on the spur of the moment.

cordeiro's games are generally 3/7, meaning that dufs had 10 days to make a move. His last move was 9 days ago, meanind that he had already eaten into his timebank. I suppose you think its fair to idle your way through a game, then stick up your vacation flag so you don't get TO'd.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
And if they decided they wanted to take a couple of hours to meet their girlfriend in the middle of your game? What would you do then? What exactly is the difference? If you agree to the time controls, then that's that. You have to play within them. Surely, he knew he was going away last month when the game started? Vacations don't generally just happ idle your way through a game, then stick up your vacation flag so you don't get TO'd.

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dufs had a short holiday but when he got back to work he was suddenly sent off unexpectedly to a business conference and gets back today (July 20th). I know this because he told me, therefore I have NOT claimed a timeout.

We are not talking about a strict and literal interpretation of the rules here but about what is sporting and what is not and, in my opinion, it is not sporting to take a time out when you know why your opponent is away, when he will be back and he clearly is not making moves elsewhere. dufs has not sat on any games ( he moves quickly)

And on the girlfriend issue. I think it is quite possible to plan your time when you are talking about dedicating 4 hours to a game but not so easy when you are talking weeks or months so your comparison is spurious!

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I don't think we need such a black list who we will avoid challangeing or not.

I time out when the other has run out of time. That's it. Exactly as in OTH games.
But of course, not if he is on vacation and told me when to be back.
And people time me out in similar circumstances.

Behave at RHP as you would do in real life - that's my motto.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
But of course, not if he is on vacation and told me when to be back.
Exactly!

... and that is precisely what I am talking about!🙂

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hell i would avoid anybody who doesn't resign immediately when he's down a queen in the middlegame with no compensation. Its just rude. you lost your queen now be a man and resign.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I am not talking about my games - I am talking about one of my opponents who I have not timed out despite having the skull up on his 2 games.
It's all right that you don't harvest the skulls, I wouldn't either given the opponent had asked for additional time. but you can't expect that from others. it's their call, and they're well within their rights to claim the win if they so choose. chess is not for the timid. it's a war on miniatyre scale. and war is war.

it seems almost everybody here starts 'being all polite' and not claimin TO's. but as time goes on, most will get over it and start clicking those skulls. and newcomers will always start this thread weekly, or the one about 'not resigning in a lost position', or the 'can ratings in RHP be compared with otb ratings' or the 'check this game which is in progress!' -thread which is really a 'don't comment on games in progress'-thread. eventually, probably when they see others posting the same exact topics time after time after time, they'll wise up and become 'regulars'.

the next thing you know, you'll be enforcing the right to timeout your opponent yourself. it's the circle of rhp-life.


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Originally posted by aginis
hell i would avoid anybody who doesn't resign immediately when he's down a queen in the middlegame with no compensation. Its just rude. you lost your queen now be a man and resign.
But he hung on and won on a timeout.

Is that sporting or what?

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Originally posted by aginis
hell i would avoid anybody who doesn't resign immediately when he's down a queen in the middlegame with no compensation. Its just rude. you lost your queen now be a man and resign.
What? Be a man?
What about women? Do you want them to be a man too and resign?

I know when my opponent is to resign when she grows a p*nis???
No, I like the women just as they are...

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Heres a guy who I'm sure would only be delighted to help you compile your blacklist...kasparov6179

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I mean, how dare NEOGOUTAM time him out in a 0 timebank game when kasparov couldn't make moves at the weekend? He even had his vacation flag up and everything! Rotten behaviour.

You two should find a nice high horse, and get up on it together.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Heres a guy who I'm sure would only be delighted to help you compile your blacklist...kasparov6179

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I mean, how dare NEOGOUTAM time him out in a 0 timebank game when kasparov couldn't make moves at the weekend? He even had his vacation flag up and everything! Rotten behaviour.

You two should find a nice high horse, and get up on it together.

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Different situation. He had no timebank and could not play at weekends so should not have set up a game that way.

But in correspondence chess we all have vacations from time to time and that should be respected.

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I'd say abolish vacations!

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
What do you do when your OTB opponents flag falls?

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I claim the win, as I do when I see skulls on RHP.


(I respect vacation flags, but when the vacation grows long, and the return date is unclear, I have given up and clicked the skull on one or two occasions. Another site where I play prevents time-outs during vacations, but limits vacations to 30 days per year. If skulls have remained for several weeks, ...)

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For the most part, I have no problem with someone claiming a TO, as the time rules were clearly stated and agreed upon. However, I think the point of CC is to play, not to collect TOs. That's a blitz thing. I always appreciate a bit of patience and common sense before skull-clicking.

Also, claiming a TO on an opponent who has a vacation flag up with a clearly stated and reasonable return date is indeed very, very lame.

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If it is a tournament or a clan game, I click the skull.. end of story, you may add me to your list. The only exception has been Davaniel who explained that he would be gone for two weeks and offered draws in our games. I took the timout in one game but accepted a draw in a game I had droped a pawn in. Even this has put me at a disadvantage as the other 2 people in my group took the timouts.

I consider it unsporting to put your opponent in a position where they have to make such a decision. Only play games you know you will be able to finish and if you can't accept the consequences.