Originally posted by UllrFinally we're getting somewhere. As you explained with the computer programs, yes it is wise to write them in such a way that they can adapt. But..it's still a computer program, correct?
Taking a different approach to this argument:
So let's assume for the sake of argument that there is a divine creator. Would not this being (God if you prefer) rather than design a gazillion creatures individually over time only to have to create new ones later on based on environmental changes instead design life in such as way that it could adapt, mutate, ...[text shortened]... ly, create it's own variations, and ultimately survive over the course of billions of years.
So if we go with the thought of an intelligent designer, a God, then why wouldn't he do the same with his programing?
This is where I believe the crux of the problem is with evolutionist. There is a deep misunderstanding with what adaptation is compared to what the theory of evolution offers.
With just about any life on earth he did exactly that. Every life form can adapt to it's particular inviroment as we all see clearly. But whatever animal or plant we look at that has adapted, it's still a bird or fish or mammal or whatever. No where in the fossil record does "1" fossil show a change from a fish into a monkey, or a bird into a human or a whale with feathers or whatever. It just isn't there no matter how hard someone may want it to be.
Thats why in the Bible in the Genises account it says many times God created them according to their kinds. No where does it ever mention that all life was just a hodge podge and mixed up life with no direction and was to go where ever it may as for as design. It just can't happen. The world would be full of freakish looking life forms that could never reproduce and survive.
Just look at the facts that even many promenent scientist are starting to agree with as the complexity of life is learned. It can't be by some dumb unguided chance that we are here.
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Originally posted by galveston75"The world would be full of freakish looking life forms"
Finally we're getting somewhere. As you explained with the computer programs, yes it is wise to write them in such a way that they can adapt. But..it's still a computer program, correct?
So if we go with the thought of an intelligent designer, a God, then why wouldn't he do the same with his programing?
This is where I believe the crux of the problem ...[text shortened]... plexity of life is learned. It can't be by some dumb unguided chance that we are here.
You mean like the Platypus?
Seriously, there is an example that has the characteristics of a duck, a beaver, and a reptile all in one creature. It is a venomous mammal that lays eggs and has a duck bill.
God must have been either extremely bored or stoned the day he created a Platypus.
Originally posted by UllrMaybe he did that to confuse evolutionist. Sure doesn't confuse me as it shows his talent.
"The world would be full of freakish looking life forms"
You mean like the Platypus?
Seriously, there is an example that has the characteristics of a duck, a beaver, and a reptile all in one creature. It is a venomous mammal that lays eggs and has a duck bill.
God must have been either extremely bored or stoned the day he created a Platypus.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust trying to get them to think a little and look at the facts. So far..not so good.
you still here dude? my goodness you are intent to run them evolutionists out of town!
It's ok for us humans to be curious about the world around us and to want to know why and how and all that stuff. I'm all for that but when they refuse to see that there is a God and have faith in things that we may never know or understand, it's sad to see humans step in front of God and doubt his wisdom and even doubt his existance...
Originally posted by galveston75How silly of us not to be believe in fairy tales?
Just trying to get them to think a little and look at the facts. So far..not so good.
It's ok for us humans to be curious about the world around us and to want to know why and how and all that stuff. I'm all for that but when they refuse to see that there is a God and have faith in things that we may never know or understand, it's sad to see humans step in front of God and doubt his wisdom and even doubt his existance...
Whatever next?!
Originally posted by Proper Knobmy goodness you believe that life arose from a pre organic soup, through the self accumulation of amino acids into complex life forms! that's enough to put goldilocks and the three bears out the game!
How silly of us not to be believe in fairy tales?
Whatever next?!
Originally posted by galveston75I don't doubt Her power and wisdom. I just don't think She went "poof'!! and everything was suddenly created. I think organisms evolved over time, even if God did start the ball rolling. Capice?
So if you are a creationist then you believe in God but then you doubt his power and wisdom?
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Originally posted by karoly aczelIt would seem that if your familiar with the Bible at all, you would know all the scriptues refer to God as masculine. Capice?
I don't doubt Her power and wisdom. I just don't think She went "poof'!! and everything was suddenly created. I think organisms evolved over time, even if God did start the ball rolling. Capice?
And what you or I think is really not the point. It's what the evidence proves and evolution has not proven it's to be taken seriously "at all."
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Originally posted by galveston75Yes actually we were. That is what the fossil record is - us seeing the past. And you did admit that the fossil record exists. The only dispute is what we can see.
Why not? Who are we to say he couldn't? Were we there to see him at work?
I am still waiting for your answers regarding the swift as I believe it clearly contradicts several of your claims.