Originally posted by galveston75Fairy tales? Fairy tales???
Fairy tales like EVOLUTION? Please will someone show me just "1" thing to prove evolution is true?
Now, the creation myth is the fairy tales you believe in. There are no observations that shows that the fairy tales of yours is the correct one. It's your religion, its not science. Can't you differ religion from science? Are you so eager to back your fairy tale with science? Then you have to know something about science first!
You know nothing - "Bats evolve echo hearing in one single day..." 😀 Well according to your creational fairy tale perhaps, but not in real world.
Your bible is not a book in physics, nor a book in biology. There are plenty better books in that genre. Why don't you reaad one?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf that's what the evidence indicates at the moment, then yes.
my goodness you believe that life arose from a pre organic soup, through the self accumulation of amino acids into complex life forms! that's enough to put goldilocks and the three bears out the game!
I can handle that, it's obvious you can't.
See where you repel at the idea of evolution and common descent, i rather like it. Everything and every animal is my relative, i am them and they are me. We all share the same genes!!!
I love the idea that i am made of stardust from an explosion of a star gone supernova over 5 billion yrs ago. I find that much more beautiful and eloquent than the fairytale that some chap called Jehovah built me and i have to live my life by his rules otherwise i won't get in to heaven. And not only that but he's some sort of prankster trying to fool us into what to believe by laying down strange animals and fossils to steer us away from believing his creation story and tempting us to foolishly follow a theory called evolution.
Originally posted by Proper Knoblol, evidence, some amino acids were synthesised in a pre conditioned so called 'primitive' atmosphere by stanley miller in the 1950s, and the conclusion drawn that these amino acids managed to form proteins, the basic building blocks of life! have you seriously ever looked at the complexity of a single cell Noobster? really, take a look! to augment your studies you may also want to research the three little pigs, puff the magic dragon and the musicians of Bremen!
If that's what the evidence indicates at the moment, then yes.
I can handle that, it's obvious you can't.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd what do you believe?
lol, evidence, some amino acids were synthesised in a pre conditioned so called 'primitive' atmosphere by stanley miller in the 1950s, and the conclusion drawn that these amino acids managed to form proteins, the basic building blocks of life! have you seriously ever looked at the complexity of a single cell Noobster? really, take a look! to augment ...[text shortened]... lso want to research the three little pigs, puff the magic dragon and the musicians of Bremen!
Some unknown man, from an unknown origin, built the universe in an unknown way for unknown reasons!!!
And you believe going round knocking on peoples doors handing out magazines somehow is doing this unknown mans work!!!!
Originally posted by Proper Knobnope, some known personage (spiritual entity i think is more accurate), constructed the universe, in an ingenious and fabulous manner, for a purpose that is self evident.
And what do you believe?
Some unknown man, from an unknown origin, built the universe in an unknown way for unknown reasons!!!
And you believe going round knocking on peoples doors handing out magazines somehow is doing this unknown mans work!!!!
Actually i prefer to try to utilise the Bible, people are not as friendly as you Noobster, ahem, therefore i simply cut to the chase, 'hi we are Jehovahs Witnesses, are you inclined to speak to us', if they say yes, then we can talk, if the say no, then i say , 'ok, have a pleasant day.' if they are argumentative, 'i just remain silent and after they have finished their rant, i just say thanks, but i need to go now, no offence as it was real interesting being lambasted, ill call again for more tongue lashings next time, thanks ever so much, really great time i had'. Na only kidding on this last point, it works out real qualities does the house to house ministry! i tend only to give magazines to those who genuinely like to read them or who request them on a regular basis, and on more than one occasion, when i feel that i was being mocked, i have asked for them back, in order that i can give them to someone who shall appreciate them. Is the house to house ministry a part of Gods purpose? undoubtedly!
Originally posted by Proper KnobIf you really looked into the Bible and connected a few dots and just tested the Bible's prohpesies and compared those to mans record of historical events, you just might see it's not just a book.
And what do you believe?
Some unknown man, from an unknown origin, built the universe in an unknown way for unknown reasons!!!
And you believe going round knocking on peoples doors handing out magazines somehow is doing this unknown mans work!!!!
And even test the scientific statements the Bible offers and compare that to known true science, you might learn something from the Bible. Maybe...
Originally posted by galveston75you are asking a lot Galvo, for that would require the exercise of conscience and thus an evaluation with ones own mind, or evolutionist friends are not used to that, they like simply to blindly accept every whim of teaching coming their way, until another reappraisal negates it! The more letters one has after ones name, the more credence they are likely to give to it!
If you really looked into the Bible and connected a few dots and just tested the Bible's prohpesies and compared those to mans record of historical events, you just might see it's not just a book.
And even test the scientific statements the Bible offers and compare that to known true science, you might learn something from the Bible. Maybe...
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd waking up the conscience is not what some want. They also aren't humble in the respects of acknowledging a God which now means they have to answer to him. Not willing to go there aren't they?
you are asking a lot Galvo, for that would require the exercise of conscience and thus an evaluation with ones own mind, or evolutionist friends are not used to that, they like simply to blindly accept every whim of teaching coming their way, until another reappraisal negates it! The more letters one has after ones name, the more credence they are likely to give to it!
Originally posted by galveston75Well, I acknowledge a god (actually gods) just not the same ones as you. So yeah I'm a theist that also happens to lean towards evolution as a plausible explanation of the development of life on this planet.
And waking up the conscience is not what some want. They also aren't humble in the respects of acknowledging a God which now means they have to answer to him. Not willing to go there aren't they?
Now you can give me a lecture about how my religion is invalid and your God is the only God and so on. But to me that is a matter of your personal belief vs. mine and I would not and have not ever attempted to tell you that your personal religous beliefs are wrong.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiethey like simply to blindly accept every whim of teaching coming their way
you are asking a lot Galvo, for that would require the exercise of conscience and thus an evaluation with ones own mind, or evolutionist friends are not used to that, they like simply to blindly accept every whim of teaching coming their way, until another reappraisal negates it! The more letters one has after ones name, the more credence they are likely to give to it!
Sometimes when i read your posts i think to myself you must really be a gay atheist who's just having a laugh to himself pretending to be this nutty creationist from Glasgow. Your posts are laced with so much irony i think it must be some kind of trick. How can a theist seriously post the comment above and not see the absurdity within it???
And stop giving me this rubbish about how you've evaluated with your own mind the evidence. You follow the doctrine of a particluar group and you have been 'taught' their beliefs. That's why the JW's all believe the same thing, you tow the party line.
The more letters one has after ones name, the more credence they are likely to give to it
Better a professor in evolutionary biology than a plasterer from Glasgow!!!
Originally posted by UllrAnd I will respect your beliefs also...
Well, I acknowledge a god (actually gods) just not the same ones as you. So yeah I'm a theist that also happens to lean towards evolution as a plausible explanation of the development of life on this planet.
Now you can give me a lecture about how my religion is invalid and your God is the only God and so on. But to me that is a matter of your personal bel ...[text shortened]... ould not and have not ever attempted to tell you that your personal religous beliefs are wrong.
Originally posted by galveston75The bible. Which bible was that again? What if I was born in the middle of India? You believe everything written in that little history book of yours? There is more than one bible and I say "Her" so I can balance up this silliness.
It would seem that if your familiar with the Bible at all, you would know all the scriptues refer to God as masculine. Capice?
And what you or I think is really not the point. It's what the evidence proves and evolution has not proven it's to be taken seriously "at all."
Of course God is pre-manifestation and is neither man or woman, but, if anything,"IT" displays more feminine attributes than masculine ones.
(Sorry science dudes...I'll take it back to spirituality after this-as G75 should do)
Originally posted by Proper Knoboooohh i think we touched a nerve here Galvo!
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Better a professor in evolutionary biology than a plasterer from Glasgow!!![/b]
(Acts 4:13) . . .Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. . .
Originally posted by robbie carrobieVery true. I know they think we're below them. Whatever, I'm outta hear.
oooohh i think we touched a nerve here Galvo!
(Acts 4:13) . . .Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. . .